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LoboFan07
10-06-2006, 01:50 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
lonny23
10-06-2006, 02:38 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students were allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.I don't like it, but you should've expected it. We've talked on here about LP fans sitting on the visitor's side. I don't have a problem with LP doing that when the other team doesn't fill their side, but it's bad when somebody like Longview comes to town and we know they travel.
SGP 06 Alumni
10-06-2006, 02:48 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students were allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
That is crazy...I've never heard of something like that happening at a high school football game. Wow, talk about home field advantage...thats just pathetic.
CyFallsMom
10-06-2006, 05:50 AM
I think if a team's fans don't have enough room to sit on their OWN side, then they need to cut off tickets. That's just bad news when they sit on the other side as well.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-06-2006, 06:14 AM
After watching the Lufkin/Longview game on TV last night, that stadium in Lufkin is built weird. The stands only go to the 30 yard line and stop. Lufkin needs to desperately renovate their stadium. That would stop the home side having to sit on the visitors' side.
Coug78
10-06-2006, 06:20 AM
That is crazy...I've never heard of something like that happening at a high school football game. Wow, talk about home field advantage...thats just pathetic.
Yep it happens. Try going to Ratliff Stadium in Odessa.
the_pack
10-06-2006, 07:25 AM
I don't like it, but you should've expected it. We've talked on here about LP fans sitting on the visitor's side. I don't have a problem with LP doing that when the other team doesn't fill their side, but it's bad when somebody like Longview comes to town and we know they travel.
But Longview did not even fill up their seats in the visitors side.
dragonfootballfan
10-06-2006, 07:25 AM
What difference does it make if the home fans sit on the visitor side. It is their stadium and all seats should be first come first serve. If a visiting team has more fans and fills out their side, then they should also be able to sit on the home side.
the_pack
10-06-2006, 07:26 AM
After watching the Lufkin/Longview game on TV last night, that stadium in Lufkin is built weird. The stands only go to the 30 yard line and stop. Lufkin needs to desperately renovate their stadium. That would stop the home side having to sit on the visitors' side.
The home side runs from the 15's or the 20's I think and is a lot higher than most HS stadiums.
J-Rock Mom
10-06-2006, 07:59 AM
Something like that happened at a JV game in Laredo to us last year. All the fans had to sit on the same side and the Laredo fans had some major attitudes. I say one man from Judson with his 2 teen age adult have an altrication with some Laredo fans and the man had to get security to follow them to thier car after the game.
You know the saying if looks could kill you'd be dead. That is how we all felt. If it wasn't the looks it was being called names or being mocked.
Thank goodness we won that game.
rich_pack
10-06-2006, 08:02 AM
Longview did not even fill up half of the visiting side, and Longview was given alot of tickets to presale, and only sold half of them, so that just tells Lufkin that there will be seats available come game time, so quit complaining and get your tickets ahead of time when you go to a out of town game. Especially one that will be on TV!!! DUH!!!:p
TrojanFan4Life
10-06-2006, 08:12 AM
I think fans should be separated no matter what - it feels more like a provoking action rather than I want to watch my team action when someone from the other team sits on your side.
Anyway, rivalry games produce a great intensity of emotion - you are only asking for trouble when you put fans from both teams on one side.
I think the security people not letting the Lobos enjoy the atmosphere of football = CLASSLESS.
Favpack
10-06-2006, 08:22 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students were allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
I'm not sure what you're saying - it seemed orderly to me - but I'm on the other side. I'd encourage someone to file a complaint if this was going on - are you sure people were arrested? That seems extreme to arrest someone for cheering.
Longview did not travel well for this game - TV and Thursday night can be blamed for that. The stadium holds about 9,800 - and there will be no major renovations in the immediate future.
wasnt on the visiting side so have no clue about the cop thing, but LV didnt rly fill up the section they had. I had rly expected them to be jam packed and it was fairly roomy. I know i was pretty much sitting in someone lap in general admission on the home side. I rly wish we could expand the stadium but from what ive heard (plenty of discussions on this on the lp website) it would be about the same price to tear down the whole stadium and start over because before they could expand they would have to bring the stadium up to current code. Forgot how much money they said it would take, but its just not cost effective right now, especialy playing houston teams who maybe bring one bus of fans.
If the cop rly was being like that Im sorry. Also wish we had more seating but there was plenty of room for Longview fans to sit.
On another note werent both bands great! Sitting right next to them in general admission there and they were playing hard and so was longviews. And the hits! Both teams were just slamming into each other.
Sorry you had a bad exp. I honestly had a great time, best football game ive been to this year.
CyFallsMom
10-06-2006, 08:30 AM
What difference does it make if the home fans sit on the visitor side. It is their stadium and all seats should be first come first serve. If a visiting team has more fans and fills out their side, then they should also be able to sit on the home side.
If the fans in question have a mature attitude, It doesn't make much of a difference but what you get more times than none are kids who come over and want to start problems - I've seen it done many times and not just for Football. They want to bad mouth your team or just be otherwise obnoxious. If the fans can sit on your side and just cheer for their team - that's one thing but even that is intimidating to those who ARE sitting on the correct side of the field.
backthepack
10-06-2006, 08:30 AM
No offense but maybe you should take that up with someone else...not ask for sympathy...and I have never heard of anything like this. I always here "Lufkin is a GREAT place to watch a game" or something to that extent. Just seems weird...
abbimaci
10-06-2006, 08:31 AM
I have a real hard time believing that a cop told you that you would be arrested for cheering at a football game. I call BS on that.
G-Man
10-06-2006, 08:33 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students were allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
Dont say I didnt tell you..
catman
10-06-2006, 08:48 AM
I have been to many games at Lufkin and have observed the following. They have no control over who sits in the reserved and general admission sections on the visitor side. After about the 1st quarter, the Lufkin fans sitting in general admission freely migrate over to the reserved section and fill up the empty seats.
LoboFan07
10-06-2006, 08:49 AM
No offense but maybe you should take that up with someone else...not ask for sympathy...and I have never heard of anything like this. I always here "Lufkin is a GREAT place to watch a game" or something to that extent. Just seems weird...
Who said I was asking for sympathy? I just thought it has gotten worse since the last time we were down there.
I have a real hard time believing that a cop told you that you would be arrested for cheering at a football game. I call BS on that.
Ok then don't believe me. I don't care.
The LUFKIN FANS behind us went up to a Lufkin cop and complained as they sat behind our student section and infront of our band. The cop came down and said sit down. We did. We then stood back up. He came back down and began screaming that we would be kicked out and arrested if we didn't sit down.
Later, I went over to the cop on the other side (near the Lufkin fans as they all stood up most of the time) and began to talk to him about it. He said as long as we didn't started a fight it was ok as they had no regulations against it as long as you bought a ticket. That cop then told me that the cop that told us to sit down had a grudge against Longview and had played for Lufkin. He had a grudge though cause he broke his collar bone against Longview and it ended his football career.
Take it as you will. Thank God I can go to Memorial Stadium and know the North Mesquite game won't be like this.
Lufkin_Class_Of_08
10-06-2006, 08:57 AM
After watching the Lufkin/Longview game on TV last night, that stadium in Lufkin is built weird. The stands only go to the 30 yard line and stop. Lufkin needs to desperately renovate their stadium. That would stop the home side having to sit on the visitors' side.
the reason we have overflow on the visitors is the band, drill team, and others take up an entire section on the home side, not that there is anything wrong with that but thats why we have pack fans on the visitors side and on the hill in the northwest corner of the stadium
PackAttack2005
10-06-2006, 09:04 AM
You Lobo guys are never happy. That cop couldn't arrest anyone for standing up and you know it, cry me another river.
If we had not let Lufkin fans sit on the visitor side those stands would have been 1/2 empty because Longview did not bring a big group to this game.
TrojanFan4Life
10-06-2006, 09:06 AM
the reason we have overflow on the visitors is the band, drill team, and others take up an entire section on the home side, not that there is anything wrong with that but thats why we have pack fans on the visitors side and on the hill in the northwest corner of the stadium
NEWSFLASH - EVERY game has an entire section taking up by the band and drill team - for BOTH sides.
Last time I checked - Lufkin is not the only school with a band and drill team!
With the emotions of HS football and many of the attendees being teenagers (who believe it or not don't always make mature decisions - I know you will argue this but I have been there and done that :) ) - it is not a good combination.
ScottS
10-06-2006, 09:06 AM
I typically have to sit on the visitor's side at SLC games as the other side is always full. Now, when I do I act neutral and do not cheer (at least out loud).
Favpack
10-06-2006, 09:10 AM
I typically have to sit on the visitor's side at SLC games as the other side is always full. Now, when I do I act neutral and do not cheer (at least out loud).
And, therein lies the problem. I've stated numerous times - I don't like the situation, but particularly now with zero seats available on the home side - it is what it is. LP fans on the visitors side are not quiet - they are very loud and they probably are a little over-the-top - but they aren't dangerous. The situation is not ideal - but it's not dangerous- it's just not fun for a visiting fan, and I personally wouldn't like it either - but that's what it is.
Lufkin willl not be building a new $50M stadium any time soon.
Lufkin_Class_Of_08
10-06-2006, 09:10 AM
NEWSFLASH - EVERY game has an entire section taking up by the band and drill team - for BOTH sides.
Last time I checked - Lufkin is not the only school with a band and drill team!
With the emotions of HS football and many of the attendees being teenagers (who believe it or not don't always make mature decisions - I know you will argue this but I have been there and done that :) ) - it is not a good combination.
i never said we were the only school with all that, i just answered the question as to why we have overflow...now if they would extend the home side a section we would solve this dilemma...but there is nothing wrong with having the overflow because even if they moved the band to a new section, we'd still have overflow
pack0808
10-06-2006, 09:37 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
Ain't homefield advantage grand! ;) I seriously seriously doubt the part about being arrested for cheering. I think there is much more to that story. When Lufkin plays at Longview we have to deal with the Lobo band playing in our ears on the visitor side and you do not hear us crying a river about it.
G-WHAT06
10-06-2006, 09:46 AM
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
Yeah I know the feeling. Last year when we played Ennis, none of our fans could stand and cheer with out being threatened by the officer that he would throw us out. About the second half though we did what we wanted to, we stood and cheered, we jumped up and down, and stood by the fence. I am not saying that we were being disrespectful to the officer, but we were having a good time. But i fyou think about it, it isn't a crime to stand and cheer, so do it anyway. We weren't threatened with arrest, but we were threatened to be "escorted" from the stadium.
G-WHAT06
10-06-2006, 09:48 AM
Ain't homefield advantage grand! ;) I seriously seriously doubt the part about being arrested for cheering. I think there is much more to that story. When Lufkin plays at Longview we have to deal with the Lobo band playing in our ears on the visitor side and you do not hear us crying a river about it.
Yeah it took me smarting off to the officer for him to finally threaten to arrest me for something or other, I really wasn't listening to him... But I stopped none the less.
reed35
10-06-2006, 09:49 AM
Yep it happens. Try going to Ratliff Stadium in Odessa.
I remember Ratliff in 94. there were alot of permian people on the Plano side and plenty mouthy. when we wouldn't say much, they finally left seemingly in frustration. they also had drums on our side with mic system. didn't work
LoneRocket
10-06-2006, 09:56 AM
Something like that happened at a JV game in Laredo to us last year. All the fans had to sit on the same side and the Laredo fans had some major attitudes. I say one man from Judson with his 2 teen age adult have an altrication with some Laredo fans and the man had to get security to follow them to thier car after the game.
You know the saying if looks could kill you'd be dead. That is how we all felt. If it wasn't the looks it was being called names or being mocked.
Thank goodness we won that game.
Back in the 70's when Judson was in a district with teams from Laredo, the Judson buses would stop at the Laredo city limits so they could wait for a police escort to the stadium and after the game they were escorted back to the city limits.
LPFAN
10-06-2006, 10:38 AM
Dang I guess none of you would ever go to a college or pro football game then. Heck I guess you can't go to a pro baseball game either. Aren't the fans mixed at those games too? How in the world will UT and OU fans be able to sit together? It is just not safe or right is it?:rolleyes: There are always going to be unruly fans. I don't like it but that is just the way it is.
texasboy
10-06-2006, 10:43 AM
I do think what the cop did was wrong but lufkin and longview arent good friends. these two have no respect for eachother longview and lufkin both like to run their mouths. i think that the fans thing was wrong but it is better then seeing fights in the crowd.
texan_75010
10-06-2006, 10:53 AM
I find the treatment you receive in the stands is a reflection of the community. For too many teams the insults hurled at the visiting team is what these people do to each other day in and day out. Don't hold your breath for an apology or sympathy as they give neither to their own, so what do you expect for a visitor? Just be glad you don't have to suffer these people every week! It is one thing to be excited for your team. It is quite another to participate in rude behavior that you wouldn't dare do if you were alone.
As for the police officer, well, I bet he could throw a football over them mountains.....:)
BeauxGeezy
10-06-2006, 11:00 AM
It's called home field advantage...
I swear some of you people must be new fans of football. The crap that you complain about is just comical. Give me a break.
For what it's worth...
When Lufkin added the new turf and jumbotron I started a thread on the old board about it. Lufkin fans absolutely killed me for saying that they should have added seats first. I still think they should have done that. Wasn't my decision...and from what PackAttack told me it was much more complicated than it appears.
Also...
I love rowdy obnoxious rude fans. It's a atmosphere like none other. Yankee Stadium,Veteran's Stadium (Philly fans are the worst)...I'm not a fan of either team...but I love the passion that their fans show. I was talking to Farmer the other day...he agreed. Loud fans chanting and giving the opposing team hell is what it's all about.
The whussification of America is just out of control. Take your skirt off and yell back at 'em...what the hell is wrong with you people?
AHS Mustangs
10-06-2006, 11:03 AM
Dang I guess none of you would ever go to a college or pro football game then. Heck I guess you can't go to a pro baseball game either. Aren't the fans mixed at those games too? How in the world will UT and OU fans be able to sit together? It is just not safe or right is it?:rolleyes: There are always going to be unruly fans. I don't like it but that is just the way it is.
That is not a good analogy. A high school football game isn't 100s or 1000s of miles away from a visiting school. True, Texas is large, but you are going to have people travel to games. How many Oregon State fans would travel to Miami to watch them play the Hurricanes? Not that many, plus college and pro-stadiums are not set up as "Home" and "Visitor." I know that when Aldine played Humble in 1996 at Turner Stadium, they sold 1/4 of the tickets on the visitor's side to Humble. We didn't have any real problems, but it is disheartening to the visiting players to hear cheers and screams for the other team come from behind you, when those are suppose to be your fans. To my knowledge, Aldine ISD has never done that at Thorne Stadium. Of course, if you go to one of the high schools and buy tickets, they can't stop you from going to the other side. Likewise, if you go to Thorne and walk up to the ticket booth to buy tickets they aren't going to stop you from entering in the visitor side if you are wearing the other teams colors or a shirt with their logo.
Favpack
10-06-2006, 11:04 AM
It's called home field advantage...
I swear some of you people must be new fans of football. The crap that you complain about is just comical. Give me a break.
For what it's worth...
When Lufkin added the new turf and jumbotron I started a thread on the old board about it. Lufkin fans absolutely killed me for saying that they should have added seats first. I still think they should have done that. Wasn't my decision...and from what PackAttack told me it was much more complicated than it appears.
If you add ANY permanent seats - you have to make the ENTIRE stadium ADA handicapped accessible from what I understand - don't take it as a final word. But, we're talking ADA ramps, handrails, restrooms, maylbe even an elevator for the press-box - it is not an easy task.
dragonfootballfan
10-06-2006, 11:04 AM
There was a situation at a game where carroll played at Grapevine in 2001 I think. There was a student section rows where a lot of kids were standing up in front of a bunch of Carroll fans. That fan told the kids to sit down, but none of them did so he went to the police. The police told all the kids to sit down, but then one of the kids told the principal of Carroll what happened and he walked over to the section of students and told all of them to stand up and told the cop that he couldn't do anything about it.
KLH75287
10-06-2006, 11:12 AM
Since when does a team have to apologize for having home field advantage?
Guess what.... Even if they do at seats to the ends of the stands, and also the endzones at Ol' Abe, LP fans will still be sitting on the visitors side. There too many people that come out and support the local team as they should for the stadium to hold them all. I see several stadiums here in the Metroplex where the entire home side is reserved and sold out to season ticket holders. Therefore, if you want to watch the game from anywhere other than the endzone, you have to sit on the visitors side of the field.
Behave yourself in a respectful manner, and enjoy the game. If it's not working out for you, then file your complaint if you need to, and don't come back. There are stadiums that I wont visit, out of fear of having to throwdown on some loud mouth idiot or some thug who has no respect for himself or for me. Those are games that I pass on. I don't care if there are 10,000 empty seats available.
BTW: Cops don't arrest people for cheerinf at games. However, they do arrest people for being jerks to the fans around them and for not complying with their authority.
Miss Kitty
10-06-2006, 01:11 PM
I was not at the game. But I have been at games where the "cops" have decided they are Buffard T. Justice. I don't encourage disrespecting law enforcement, but I don't agree with bending over and taking it from them either. I am the first to say, respectfully of course, to any "Barny Fife of the Stadiums" that when they can show me in black and white that I am violating a stadium rule, I will gladly change what I am doing. I have gotten into the habit of looking up and sometimes printing off the stadium rules and taking them with me. That would have been the perfect time for that. But you can not blame Lufkin for that cops actions. Perhaps a phone call to the ISD is in order to voice your complaints. But it is certainly not the fans on this board that caused your grief.
farmerfan
10-06-2006, 01:18 PM
And, therein lies the problem. I've stated numerous times - I don't like the situation, but particularly now with zero seats available on the home side - it is what it is. LP fans on the visitors side are not quiet - they are very loud and they probably are a little over-the-top - but they aren't dangerous. The situation is not ideal - but it's not dangerous- it's just not fun for a visiting fan, and I personally wouldn't like it either - but that's what it is.
Lufkin willl not be building a new $50M stadium any time soon.
You know there is nothing wrong with LP fans being loud and rowdy in Lufkin regardless of where they are sitting. It is the stadium that the tax payers of Lufkin built and contiune to pay to maintain. If visiting teams dont like how loud the Lufkin fans are on that side then they can fix it, be louder. It's amazing how people find the smallest thing to whine about.
Back in 2001 which was the last good year of Lewisville football I always sat on the visitor side and always wore a maroon L hat and a fighting farmer shirt. I cheered everytime we scored or made a great play. I clapped during the fight song too. I received some looks and some comments but I simply told them the tax dollars of my family paid for this stadium and continue to support it so I can do and say what I want. How dare someone come into your backyard and tell you how to act.
PantherStang84
10-06-2006, 01:21 PM
You know there is nothing wrong with LP fans being loud and rowdy in Lufkin regardless of where they are sitting. It is the stadium that the tax payers of Lufkin built and contiune to pay to maintain. If visiting teams dont like how loud the Lufkin fans are on that side then they can fix it, be louder. It's amazing how people find the smallest thing to whine about.
Back in 2001 which was the last good year of Lewisville football I always sat on the visitor side and always wore a maroon L hat and a fighting farmer shirt. I cheered everytime we scored or made a great play. I clapped during the fight song too. I received some looks and some comments but I simply told them the tax dollars of my family paid for this stadium and continue to support it so I can do and say what I want. How dare someone come into your backyard and tell you how to act.
I nominate this post for the....
Most well reasoned post in a thread award!
panamamyers
10-06-2006, 02:01 PM
If we're talking about Lufkin fas that walk up to the visitor's side ticket office and purchase a ticket, then what can you really do about that? If you mean that Lufkin actually takes a section away from Longview and uses it just as if it were a home side section and sells it to Lufkin fans....then that's absolutely atrocious. I would think it would go without saying how horrible that is. If you need more seats then build a bigger stadium. I will assume that Lufkin fans just walked over there and bought tickets, because otherwise I just lost a ton of respect for Lufkin.
I always sit on the visitor's side for Lee home games. I go on my own accord and goto the visitor's side and purchase a ticket. No one knows for whom I am rooting. I don't say a word during the game. That's classless to go to the other side and openly cheer for your team. That's very low rent.
Fleeman93
10-06-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't say a word during the game. That's classless to go to the other side and openly cheer for your team. That's very low rent.
Guess I am low rent.
:rolleyes:
texan_75010
10-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Guess I am low rent.
:rolleyes:
Yes, I would have to agree. You are low rent...not to mention an abnoxious finger stick.
PantherStang84
10-06-2006, 02:47 PM
For those that think Lufkin needs a new stadium...
Donations are gladly accepted. We are still paying off the bonds from the high school expansion from a few years back. We are not a property rich district and can't just pull $50,000,000 out of thin air.
All visitor side tickets are available to the visiting team if they sell them. We only ask they send the unsold ones back so we can have more tickets for the Lufkin fans.
If you don't want to sit with Lufkin fans, sell out your side!
pack_90
10-06-2006, 03:17 PM
If we're talking about Lufkin fas that walk up to the visitor's side ticket office and purchase a ticket, then what can you really do about that? If you mean that Lufkin actually takes a section away from Longview and uses it just as if it were a home side section and sells it to Lufkin fans....then that's absolutely atrocious. I would think it would go without saying how horrible that is. If you need more seats then build a bigger stadium. I will assume that Lufkin fans just walked over there and bought tickets, because otherwise I just lost a ton of respect for Lufkin.
I always sit on the visitor's side for Lee home games. I go on my own accord and goto the visitor's side and purchase a ticket. No one knows for whom I am rooting. I don't say a word during the game. That's classless to go to the other side and openly cheer for your team. That's very low rent.
As was posted at least twice before, Longview was offered all the visitor tickets and didn't sell them. Therefore, there will be more open seats for Lufkin fans. So before you're too critical of Lufkin fans, get your facts together. As for building more seats, it is obviously a difficult thing to do, especially for such a "low rent" district.
twcpfan1
10-06-2006, 03:52 PM
Props to the Lufkin fan base if they support their team enough to consistently sell out the Home side of their Stadium. I mean that's impressive. As for the fans who aren't able to get tickets in the Home Section. By no means should they be prohibited from sitting on the other side.
But, if they are going to sit on the Visitor's side, I think a certain degree of consideration must be observed. After all, the Oppostion team and fans are guests in your house and should be treated accordingly. That's not to say don't cheer for your team. I think most fans can draw the line between cheering for your team and antagonizing the opposition fans around you. And if some of the allegations are true about the local police's behavior, then something should be done about it.
This should hold true for all schools in a similar situation.
svhorns
10-06-2006, 04:16 PM
Props to the Lufkin fan base if they support their team enough to consistently sell out the Home side of their Stadium. I mean that's impressive. As for the fans who aren't able to get tickets in the Home Section. By no means should they be prohibited from sitting on the other side.
But, if they are going to sit on the Visitor's side, I think a certain degree of consideration must be observed. After all, the Oppostion team and fans are guests in your house and should be treated accordingly. That's not to say don't cheer for your team. I think most fans can draw the line between cheering for your team and antagonizing the opposition fans around you. And if some of the allegations are true about the local police's behavior, then something should be done about it.
This should hold true for all schools in a similar situation.
Agree 100% everytime I go to a SV game I sit on the other side... They know im an SV cause I clap everytime we do somethin good... but I know not to rub it in their faces... I dont even look at them actually... I want them to enjoy their time at our place its all common courtesy....
packfan75
10-06-2006, 04:25 PM
I think some of the posters here are getting a little too defensive - on both sides. For one thing, the people of Lufkin are nice, friendly people who are rabid about their football team. Why shouldn't they be?
Howver, keep in mind that EVERY town has jerks and jackasses. Those people also turn out for games, and unfortunately they make the rest of the citizens look bad. Don't be guilty of assuming that ALL the people of Lufkin are like those few.
DipnSpit
10-06-2006, 04:40 PM
I find the treatment you receive in the stands is a reflection of the community. For too many teams the insults hurled at the visiting team is what these people do to each other day in and day out. Don't hold your breath for an apology or sympathy as they give neither to their own, so what do you expect for a visitor? Just be glad you don't have to suffer these people every week! It is one thing to be excited for your team. It is quite another to participate in rude behavior that you wouldn't dare do if you were alone.
As for the police officer, well, I bet he could throw a football over them mountains.....:)
Good post!
Favpack
10-06-2006, 09:44 PM
If we're talking about Lufkin fas that walk up to the visitor's side ticket office and purchase a ticket, then what can you really do about that? If you mean that Lufkin actually takes a section away from Longview and uses it just as if it were a home side section and sells it to Lufkin fans....then that's absolutely atrocious. I would think it would go without saying how horrible that is. If you need more seats then build a bigger stadium. I will assume that Lufkin fans just walked over there and bought tickets, because otherwise I just lost a ton of respect for Lufkin.
I always sit on the visitor's side for Lee home games. I go on my own accord and goto the visitor's side and purchase a ticket. No one knows for whom I am rooting. I don't say a word during the game. That's classless to go to the other side and openly cheer for your team. That's very low rent.
Totally uninformed once again - why do I bother? Longview had all the seats they could handle and sit in - we never refuse a visiting team the number of seats they choose to sell. HOWEVER, for the remaining seats on that side they don't purchase, WE then sell to Lufkinites wanting to see the game. If LV wanted to circumvent that - buy every single stinking seat and sell it or give it away to their fans.
the_pack
10-06-2006, 10:00 PM
For the most part, the fans were divided anyways in the sections.
Dragon20
10-06-2006, 11:17 PM
Should of been a Colleyville Fan.
LP-79
10-06-2006, 11:24 PM
I don't understand this thread! I was at game. I took my 9 year old nephew. First football game he had ever been too. He got a bag of peanuts from the guy that is always yelling and giving peanuts away. He also got him a football that the cheerleaders throw into the crowd. Now we were standing nearly the whole game hollering. I noticed that Longview's crowd was also standing and yelling. The damn guy barking was a little annoying!:p The only time I saw the Longview crowd get quiet was that little stretch when they got the living daylights hammered out of them.
But Longview did not even fill up their seats in the visitors side.
Listen, I graduated from LV in 1974, last night was my first missed game between the two long time rivals in over thirty years. Why? Because the last time I attended a game at Abe Martin Stadium I got into a shouting match and almost worse with a LP fan sitting on the LV side in the middle of LV faithful. In fact, the LV side was inundated with verbally abusive LP fans. It can best be described as appalling. LP fans constantly harassed LV fans and even went as far as heckling us when we attempted to cheer for our team. Since this game was being televised, I decided to avoid those despicably dreadful conditions. I am pleading to any and all decent LP fans, please put a stop to this terrible display of unsportsmanlike conduct before the unimaginable happens.
" That cop then told me that the cop that told us to sit down had a grudge against Longview and had played for Lufkin. He had a grudge though cause he broke his collar bone against Longview and it ended his football career."
When was the last time anyone heard of a athlete break his collar bone & it end his football career?
I will say this though, Lufkin should move the band & drill team over to that side & move those fans to the Lufkin side. Every school has some bad fans. I remember playing Foster in Longview when I was in Jr High. After the game our cheer leaders & the few students that went to the game where ruffed up by their cars waiting for the team to come to the bus.
pack0808
10-07-2006, 12:00 AM
Listen, I graduated from LV in 1974, last night was my first missed game between the two long time rivals in over thirty years. Why? Because the last time I attended a game at Abe Martin Stadium I got into a shouting match and almost worse with a LP fan sitting on the LV side in the middle of LV faithful. In fact, the LV side was inundated with verbally abusive LP fans. It can best be described as appalling. LP fans constantly harassed LV fans and even went as far as heckling us when we attempted to cheer for our team. Since this game was being televised, I decided to avoid those despicably dreadful conditions. I am pleading to any and all decent LP fans, please put a stop to this terrible display of unsportsmanlike conduct before the unimaginable happens.
drama queen. I see nothing but enthusiastic and respectful fans on the home side. I doubt we have gangs over on the visitor side threatening peoples lives. They might give our rival fans a hard time so what. It happens.
BeauxGeezy
10-07-2006, 12:01 AM
" That cop then told me that the cop that told us to sit down had a grudge against Longview and had played for Lufkin. He had a grudge though cause he broke his collar bone against Longview and it ended his football career."
I call BS on that dude.
See...this is how stupid *** rumors get started. A broken collar bone ended his career?
LoboFan07
10-07-2006, 12:05 AM
I call BS on that dude.
See...this is how stupid *** rumors get started. A broken collar bone ended his career?
Ask him. He's the one that told me.
pack0808
10-07-2006, 12:05 AM
I had a fracture in my collarbone ( big fight at party) right before my seinor year of baseball in college. Still fought with one arm by the way. ;) I had surgery the next day (still have a big scar) and was ready by the 2nd or 3rd game. I wore a sling for a while but was good to go in no time. But this same injury ended this guys career. Riiiight
BeauxGeezy
10-07-2006, 12:09 AM
Ask him. He's the one that told me.
I'm not calling BS on him...I'm calling it on you.
Don't insult our intelligence dude...do you think the people on this
board are freakin' morons?
You had all day to come up with a lie and that's the best you could come up with?
And for the record I don't know of any Lufkin cops that even played for the Pack...much less ended their career because of an injury.
Pathetic...
We should put that on a t-shirt Pack fans.
LUFKIN... WHERE COLLAR BONE INJURIES PRODUCE COPS WITH ATTITUDES!
Good Lord this is just weak man...
And, therein lies the problem. I've stated numerous times - I don't like the situation, but particularly now with zero seats available on the home side - it is what it is. LP fans on the visitors side are not quiet - they are very loud and they probably are a little over-the-top - but they aren't dangerous. The situation is not ideal - but it's not dangerous- it's just not fun for a visiting fan, and I personally wouldn't like it either - but that's what it is.
Lufkin willl not be building a new $50M stadium any time soon.
lufkin can do the same thing Sv did and just extend them to the endzone. that seemed to work ok for us.
Beaux, I know one cop that played football. The guy does have a Horse crap attitude. Wether he's at the games I don't know. Big guy that played LB. If he's telling people that ruined his career...... LMAO
BeauxGeezy
10-07-2006, 12:23 AM
Beaux, I know one cop that played football. The guy does have a Horse crap attitude. Wether he's at the games I don't know. Big guy that played LB. If he's telling people that ruined his career...... LMAO
exactly
I doubt it very seriously. Why would he say that? Anybody that says they ruined their career because of broken collar bone....wasn't that freakin' good to begin with. And should be smacked for telling that lie.
drama queen. I see nothing but enthusiastic and respectful fans on the home side. I doubt we have gangs over on the visitor side threatening peoples lives. They might give our rival fans a hard time so what. It happens.
I guess I wouldn't be mistaken if I came to the conclusion that this type of behavior is completely acceptable in your eyes. Hopefully, you don't represent the typical LP fan. Why so much anger and hostility?? - You'd think that you had lost 10 in a row... All I am saying is that we live in a volatile world, in volatile times, with volatile people and that us "civilized people" should do everything within our power to take proactive measures before something unimaginable happens. As for me, I have never set on the visitor’s side, and never will. Further, I would never reflect such “obtuse behavior” and excuse a LV fan that stooped to such despicable actions. :rolleyes: :D :cool:
exactly
I doubt it very seriously. Why would he say that? Anybody that says they ruined their career because of broken collar bone....wasn't that freakin' good to begin with. And should be smacked for telling that lie.
Exactly!:D
PackAttack2005
10-07-2006, 12:26 AM
LoboFan07, did you ask the officers name or get his badge number? I know the Lufkin ISD would not allow such conduct from an law officer at a game. As a citizen, did you report this to a Lufkin school official because you had avenues to addres that situation. Where you so intimidated by this man you couldn't leave your seat and find another officer?
Sometime I wonder exactly how bad it really is over on the Lufkin visitor side, I saw plenty of Longview fans standing and cheering in the 2nd half without any obstruction from law enforcement.
At Lufkin's last road game to IKE, the Aldine law officers and school officials where tight on our fans, but I still enjoyed the game. When we use to go to a Longview or a Marshall game, their fans and bands were always on the visitor side with us. We never had a problem.
Get over it and go on down the road. You make it sound like we have gangs operating on the visitor side of Abe, which is the furtherest from the truth.
pack0808
10-07-2006, 12:28 AM
I guess I wouldn't be mistaken if I came to the conclusion that this type of behavior is completely acceptable in your eyes. Hopefully, you don't represent the typical LP fan. Why so much anger and hostility?? - You'd think that you had lost 10 in a row... All I am saying is that we live in a volatile world, in volatile times, with volatile people and that us "civilized people" should do everything within our power to take proactive measures before something unimaginable happens. As for me, I have never set on the visitor’s side, and never will. Further, I would never reflect such “obtuse behavior” and excuse a LV fan that stooped to such despicable actions. :rolleyes: :D :cool:
I just have not seen it (go to all the LP games) and think some of you might stretch the truth a little.
pack0808
10-07-2006, 12:29 AM
Beaux, I know one cop that played football. The guy does have a Horse crap attitude. Wether he's at the games I don't know. Big guy that played LB. If he's telling people that ruined his career...... LMAO
are you talking about RC??
are you talking about RC??
PM sent
I just have not seen it (go to all the LP games) and think some of you might stretch the truth a little.
Believe as you will . . . but I am telling you the truth and nothing but . . . Have you ever set on the visitor's side and gauged the conduct of LP fans?? Since you believe that, as you put it, "I might be stretch (-ing) the truth a little", I must conclude that you have not. I respectfully challenge you to do so. Do you think that it just might be possible that the people that religiously set on the visitor's side may just be a different kind of animal; and as such, do so just to start trouble. And as for your other comment, do you really expect to see ill behavior on your own side within your own fan base. Who would they be getting rowdy with - may I ask??? Listen, I am a Safety Consultant by profession and I am simply trying to warn somebody, anybody on the LP side of sanity that this could one day get very ugly if it is not addressed by the powers that be. :cool:
pack0808
10-07-2006, 12:55 AM
Believe as you will . . . but I am telling you the truth and nothing but . . . Have you ever set on the visitor's side and gauged the conduct of LP fans?? Since you believe that, as you put it, "I might be stretch (-ing) the truth a little", I must conclude that you have not. I respectfully challenge you to do so. Do you think that it just might be possible that the people that religiously set on the visitor's side may just be a different kind of animal; and as such, do so just to start trouble. And as for your other comment, do you really expect to see ill behavior on your own side within your own fan base. Who would they be getting rowdy with - may I ask??? Listen, I am a Safety Consultant by profession and I am simply trying to warn somebody, anybody on the LP side of sanity that this could one day get very ugly if it is not addressed by the powers that be. :cool:
Well if they are that bad it should be dealt with. I have been to playoff games where we were mixed and have not seen it. Maybe you just had a bad experience with some morons. All teams have fans that are morons.
Good night (or should I say good morning) to all, I'm "fixing" (that's Texas talk for "I'm getting prepared" - to all of you out of State’rs) to go to sleep. In closing, Good Luck to LP, LV and all the East Texas teams and fans. It looks as though we are on the brink of another great season.
That was the worst time I've ever had at an away stadium.
This was worse than the 2003 game where the Lp fans and LGV fans were screaming back and forth during halftime at each other. It was terrible.
Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game.
Yet....Lufkin fans could do whatever they wanted on our side. Such as...jump up and down on the stands the entire half time. Yet, when we say anything and complain...they tell us they can't do anything about it.
Lufkin fans now sit in the reserved section also of the away side! greatness!
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.
To set the record straight, almost everything you posted here was just down right false. True, Lufkin fans sit on the east side of the field the same way they do at Lobo stadium. No biggy! There are no reserved seats on that side. It is all general admission. You can sit anywhere you like in that entire middle sections if you are a visiting team.
What I would like to comment most about here is your statement and I quote "Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game."
I was concerned about this and did some checking. Here is what actually went down. There were some elderly Longview fans sitting on a row watching their grandkids perform. Some young men (apparently you) sat in front of them just before the game. Once the game started the young men stood the entire first half blocking the view of the elderly Longview fans. After repeated request to either sit down or move to where they could stand and not block someones view, instead they got smart with the elderly people. Someone from the elderly party went and ask if one of the Lufkin PD would ask the young men to either sit down or move. Again they popped off but sat down only to continue this disrespect to the people behind them as soon as the officers left. The PD was ask a second time for help and again tried to convience the young men to move down to the endzone area where they could do cart wheels if they liked. That was the end of it.
Now, to come on here and spew this garbage to make yourself look cool in front of those on this board who could not dispute you is just plain sorry.
I know a good many people from Longview and I can honestly say there are none nicer. In fact one of my best friends now was someone that went to Longview and we competed against each other when we were in HS. But, I guess every school has a few who they would just as soon leave at home. You young man should be ashamed first off, to disrespect some elderly people who are from your own town, and then second, to disrespect someone of authority, and third come on here looking for sympathy based on infactuations. I gave you the benfit of the doubt at first but felt there was more to the story and so there was. Sure the older people could have moved but why should they. Frankly I could care less if you never come back to Abe Martin and I'm sure your own fans would appreciate it as well if you didn't.
Favpack
10-12-2006, 06:33 PM
To set the record straight, almost everything you posted here was just down right false. True, Lufkin fans sit on the east side of the field the same way they do at Lobo stadium. No biggy! There are no reserved seats on that side. It is all general admission. You can sit anywhere you like in that entire middle sections if you are a visiting team.
What I would like to comment most about here is your statement and I quote "Our students weren't allowed to stand up and cheer on our team because the cop had a grudge against Longview (he said so himself). And if we stood up, we would be arrested and kicked out of the game."
I was concerned about this and did some checking. Here is what actually went down. There were some elderly Longview fans sitting on a row watching their grandkids perform. Some young men (apparently you) sat in front of them just before the game. Once the game started the young men stood the entire first half blocking the view of the elderly Longview fans. After repeated request to either sit down or move to where they could stand and not block someones view, instead they got smart with the elderly people. Someone from the elderly party went and ask if one of the Lufkin PD would ask the young men to either sit down or move. Again they popped off but sat down only to continue this disrespect to the people behind them as soon as the officers left. The PD was ask a second time for help and again tried to convience the young men to move down to the endzone area where they could do cart wheels if they liked. That was the end of it.
Now, to come on here and spew this garbage to make yourself look cool in front of those on this board who could not dispute you is just plain sorry.
I know a good many people from Longview and I can honestly say there are none nicer. In fact one of my best friends now was someone that went to Longview and we competed against each other when we were in HS. But, I guess every school has a few who they would just as soon leave at home. You young man should be ashamed first off, to disrespect some elderly people who are from your own town, and then second, to disrespect someone of authority, and third come on here looking for sympathy based on infactuations. I gave you the benfit of the doubt at first but felt there was more to the story and so there was. Sure the older people could have moved but why should they. Frankly I could care less if you never come back to Abe Martin and I'm sure your own fans would appreciate it as well if you didn't.
I confirmed this too PACK. I personally talked to someone that works that side - and he said the people wanting the kids to sit down were LONGVIEW fans, and the kids were fairly disrespectful and cause somewhat of a scene by it. Typical nonsense.
LoboFan07
10-12-2006, 06:41 PM
I was concerned about this and did some checking. Here is what actually went down. There were some elderly Longview fans sitting on a row watching their grandkids perform. Some young men (apparently you) sat in front of them just before the game. Once the game started the young men stood the entire first half blocking the view of the elderly Longview fans. After repeated request to either sit down or move to where they could stand and not block someones view, instead they got smart with the elderly people. Someone from the elderly party went and ask if one of the Lufkin PD would ask the young men to either sit down or move. Again they popped off but sat down only to continue this disrespect to the people behind them as soon as the officers left. The PD was ask a second time for help and again tried to convience the young men to move down to the endzone area where they could do cart wheels if they liked. That was the end of it.
Wow...Nothing like that happened, as there wasn't a single elderly person around us. It was all Lufkin fans that were in their 20s and had been cussing at us cause they couldn't see, as they were on the side of us. There were NO elderly people anywhere near us as we were right infront of the Lobo band and all the students from this year and students from last year were over there.
After the second time the LPD came down there...we TRIED to go to the endzone and once again...were shot down by the Lufkin people on the track saying if we went down there we would get kicked out of the stadium...yet the Lufkin students that came over before the game were allowed to go on down and walk around to the other side of the sided hill.
And there were many of the students that weren't just "young men" so you obvious have been talking to the wrong people.
And if it was Longview people...I don't understand why they would clap for the Lufkin first downs and scream Go Pack..
And if you don't believe me...Look for yourself in the left hand corner...o Looky there..Lp fan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/lobos/site2.jpg
Favpack
10-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Gotta love those LUFKIN SUCKS shirts - stay classy Longview!
And, someday maybe you can actually beat Lufkin.
BeauxGeezy
10-12-2006, 07:59 PM
Wow...Nothing like that happened, as there wasn't a single elderly person around us. It was all Lufkin fans that were in their 20s and had been cussing at us cause they couldn't see, as they were on the side of us. There were NO elderly people anywhere near us as we were right infront of the Lobo band and all the students from this year and students from last year were over there.
After the second time the LPD came down there...we TRIED to go to the endzone and once again...were shot down by the Lufkin people on the track saying if we went down there we would get kicked out of the stadium...yet the Lufkin students that came over before the game were allowed to go on down and walk around to the other side of the sided hill.
And there were many of the students that weren't just "young men" so you obvious have been talking to the wrong people.
Awesome...
Glad to see grammar is so important amongst Longview's students.
Home field advantage...heard of it?
If we had just dropped #10 in a row to Longview....I think I would just keep my mouth shut.
But hey...that's just me.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-12-2006, 08:15 PM
The home side runs from the 15's or the 20's I think and is a lot higher than most HS stadiums.
Don't try and defend your stadium. Its old, its gray and dungy looking and is second only to Allens dump as the worst in the state for a top program. At least yours is made of concrete not lead tainted rusting wood like Allen's.
Lufkin should anty up and spend some money to remodel or build a new one.
purple pride
10-12-2006, 08:28 PM
Don't try and defend your stadium. Its old, its gray and dungy looking and is second only to Allens dump as the worst in the state for a top program. At least yours is made of concrete not lead tainted rusting wood like Allen's.
Lufkin should anty up and spend some money to remodel or build a new one.
Hey Plano, LP's stadium is fine along with the team, don't make comments about someone's place, unless your team can back it up.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-12-2006, 08:41 PM
Hey Plano, LP's stadium is fine along with the team, don't make comments about someone's place, unless your team can back it up.
This has nothing to do with the play on the field its about the field you play on. Your place is depressing. Not a pretty place to play but if you like it that all that matters. Come up to Plano sometime and see how HS stadiums should look. :)
You guys are to good of a program finally to be playing in a 1940's era cement box of a stadium.
Wow...Nothing like that happened, as there wasn't a single elderly person around us. It was all Lufkin fans that were in their 20s and had been cussing at us cause they couldn't see, as they were on the side of us. There were NO elderly people anywhere near us as we were right infront of the Lobo band and all the students from this year and students from last year were over there.
After the second time the LPD came down there...we TRIED to go to the endzone and once again...were shot down by the Lufkin people on the track saying if we went down there we would get kicked out of the stadium...yet the Lufkin students that came over before the game were allowed to go on down and walk around to the other side of the sided hill.
And there were many of the students that weren't just "young men" so you obvious have been talking to the wrong people.
And if it was Longview people...I don't understand why they would clap for the Lufkin first downs and scream Go Pack..
And if you don't believe me...Look for yourself in the left hand corner...o Looky there..Lp fan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/lobos/site2.jpg
For please! So you have a picture with a couple of purple shirts in the background. That's a far cry from behind you. Besides, that lady in the Lufkin shirt is a school official at the ramp to assist. So she sat down. Most people do that at football games. That's why the benches are there. Every ramp at a game has a LISD official (mostly teachers) at every ramp. You can come up with all the excuses you want but your story is just wrong and you know it. Regardless though, you'll never convence anyone here that your story is true. I would certainly take the word over any PD rather than some disgruntaled 17 year old who has no respect for anyone but yourself.
And one other thing, there are many other schools fans who attend are games. The only tickets left are the ones you guys didn't take which were quite a few. If they cheered for Lufkin then it shows they go with a winner. Who knows, maybe some LV fans swithed sides.
G-Man
10-12-2006, 08:53 PM
LoboFan07, did you ask the officers name or get his badge number? I know the Lufkin ISD would not allow such conduct from an law officer at a game. As a citizen, did you report this to a Lufkin school official because you had avenues to addres that situation. Where you so intimidated by this man you couldn't leave your seat and find another officer?
Sometime I wonder exactly how bad it really is over on the Lufkin visitor side, I saw plenty of Longview fans standing and cheering in the 2nd half without any obstruction from law enforcement.
At Lufkin's last road game to IKE, the Aldine law officers and school officials where tight on our fans, but I still enjoyed the game. When we use to go to a Longview or a Marshall game, their fans and bands were always on the visitor side with us. We never had a problem.
Get over it and go on down the road. You make it sound like we have gangs operating on the visitor side of Abe, which is the furtherest from the truth.
I have an idea to solve this impasse. All or some of you LP posters go to Abe Martin dressed as opposing fans and scream for the other team. If you dont get verbally abused or worse by the roving gangs of thugs that you wont let on the home side, then we can call this all a big misunderstanding and go about our business. Maybe you can get KT to go with you as a witness.:) Settle it once and for all. I double dare ya.:D :D
Favpack
10-12-2006, 09:29 PM
I have an idea to solve this impasse. All or some of you LP posters go to Abe Martin dressed as opposing fans and scream for the other team. If you dont get verbally abused or worse by the roving gangs of thugs that you wont let on the home side, then we can call this all a big misunderstanding and go about our business. Maybe you can get KT to go with you as a witness.:) Settle it once and for all. I double dare ya.:D :D
Yeah - let's get our posse and go man. I think the Crips and Bloods rule the east side - there's been like 8 stabbings this year - but who's counting.
Sheesh- seems like an old man would learn that lyin' gets you nowhere in life.
Favpack
10-12-2006, 09:32 PM
This has nothing to do with the play on the field its about the field you play on. Your place is depressing. Not a pretty place to play but if you like it that all that matters. Come up to Plano sometime and see how HS stadiums should look. :)
You guys are to good of a program finally to be playing in a 1940's era cement box of a stadium.
Could you be any wimpier PWF? Why not field a decent team more often than once every 10 years.
This has nothing to do with the play on the field its about the field you play on. Your place is depressing. Not a pretty place to play but if you like it that all that matters. Come up to Plano sometime and see how HS stadiums should look. :)
You guys are to good of a program finally to be playing in a 1940's era cement box of a stadium.
We seem to like it. What else matters? Sure we would love to add more seating from 10k to 14K or bigger because we know we would fill it, but we are not a big metro school like Plano where boob jobs pay the bills.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-12-2006, 10:54 PM
We seem to like it. What else matters? Sure we would love to add more seating from 10k to 14K or bigger because we know we would fill it, but we are not a big metro school like Plano where boob jobs pay the bills.
Not sure how boob jobs pay the bills. Would you explain that one to me?
I have been to lufkin. Give me Plano anytime or praticaly anywhere else for that matter.:)
BeauxGeezy
10-12-2006, 10:57 PM
Don't try and defend your stadium. Its old, its gray and dungy looking and is second only to Allens dump as the worst in the state for a top program. At least yours is made of concrete not lead tainted rusting wood like Allen's.
Lufkin should anty up and spend some money to remodel or build a new one.
Like Tony Dungy?
Meaning it looks like a light skinned brother that likes to wear sweaters with no sleeves?
Not sure I'm following you here.
LPFAN
10-12-2006, 11:01 PM
Like Tony Dungy?
Meaning it looks like a light skinned brother that likes to wear sweaters with no sleeves?
Not sure I'm following you here.
Yeah it is bad when someone comes in here and tries to dog another school, football team or stadium and in the process they make themselves look foolish.
packerbacker
10-13-2006, 12:24 AM
Are we seriously having a conversation with some people from Plano about our stadium. Thats crazy. If your stadium is so great quit playing at Texas Stadium and play some play off games at your own field. Thats if you make it to the play offs. Oh and by the way dont snort up the 50 yard line either.:D
RocklandDragon
10-13-2006, 01:46 AM
Not sure how boob jobs pay the bills. Would you explain that one to me?
I have been to lufkin. Give me Plano anytime or praticaly anywhere else for that matter.:)
Lufkin was good to me. The beautiful trees and scenery made me feel relaxed. I didn't have any problems with Abe Martin stadium. I sure did get tired going up and down the stairs. :o
Sorry you feel that way about Lufkin. If I had the money or time to catch another game down there, I would. I will probably do so next year.
:cool:
G-Man
10-13-2006, 09:11 AM
Yeah - let's get our posse and go man. I think the Crips and Bloods rule the east side - there's been like 8 stabbings this year - but who's counting.
Sheesh- seems like an old man would learn that lyin' gets you nowhere in life.
So....you're too scared to do it...right??:)
Pack Daddy
10-13-2006, 09:23 AM
I think fans should be separated no matter what - it feels more like a provoking action rather than I want to watch my team action when someone from the other team sits on your side.
Anyway, rivalry games produce a great intensity of emotion - you are only asking for trouble when you put fans from both teams on one side.
I think the security people not letting the Lobos enjoy the atmosphere of football = CLASSLESS.
I don't believe that for one minute (Police not letting Lobo fans stand) - and there's probably alot more to the story!!!!!
Not sure how boob jobs pay the bills. Would you explain that one to me?
I have been to lufkin. Give me Plano anytime or praticaly anywhere else for that matter.:)
It's no secret that Plano Plastics doesn't mean what it use to. I have 2 or 3 friends who live and work in Plano that joke about this all the time. Got to work that tax base if you want nice shiny HS stadiums. Lufkin just doesn't have it. The same new house that cost 150k in Lufkin would cost 250K there. We don't share time in our stadium with any other school either. I always say you should feel fortunate when you have nice things, but before you slam someone else that doesn't, think about the fact they might just have what can be afforded. I'm sure there have been many upgrades to Abe since the last time you were here if you ever have been, but, if you're basing your opinion on what you saw last Thursday on TV, then that's pretty shallow and unsubstanuated. Abe might be old, but it shines like new money during every game. And it is one heck of a chore for visiting teams to come in here and try and win a game. To my knowledge, the last home game Lufkin lost was to Evangel in 02. What's most important is that the field is 100 yards long just like yours is. The surface is the same as what's in Relient in Houston. I guess if it is good enough for a pro team it should be good enough for a HS team tucked back in the woods.
pack0808
10-13-2006, 09:45 AM
Lufkin just spent millions on renovations and it is not a dump IMO. Brand new turf a jumbotron scoreboard, indoor facility etc etc Is it the nicest in the state? no, but it is definitely not near the worst in the state. Yes many of us would like to improve the stands but it is not possible right now. Lufkin worries about the actual football more then trying to make their stadium the nicest in the state and the results prove it. Bring your team down to Abe for a nice butt kicking some time if you do not believe me.
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 09:49 AM
I am still amazed that schools allow fans for another school to go sit on the visitor's side. That's a recipe for disaster and I'm amazed Lufkin permits it. If their side is filled, turn people away or build a bigger stadium.
Summit has only been to one school as visitors that allowed their fans to sit on our side (a little SWC school). There was plenty of seating on their side, but there are apparently people who really enjoy coming over to the visitor's side and causing a ruckus (all the more reason to not allow it).
The only recourse is to make life miserable for those people, which is what the Summit students did at the game I mentioned.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 10:03 AM
I am still amazed that schools allow fans for another school to go sit on the visitor's side. That's a recipe for disaster and I'm amazed Lufkin permits it. If their side is filled, turn people away or build a bigger stadium.
Lufkin gives the other school every opportunity to sell out their side of the stadium...if they don't...............what are they supposed to do?
Tell Lufkin fans..."Yeah we have seats.....but not for you" and just leave the seats empty?
Think before you type please. Thank you.
Pack0406
10-13-2006, 10:03 AM
This has been hotly discussed many, many times within Lufkin. I have sat on both sides and never had any trouble.
Somebody always got something to complain about...don't like the uni's, don't like the stadium, helmets don't match, don't like, etc, etc. what next?
Takes forever to get into H-Town stadiums with all of the metal detection devices:cool:
Below was taken from a discussion on the Lufkin Web Forum...let it go man!
"That topic is always brought up when something is added. The seating is a completely different situation and concerns the ADA or American Disabilities Act that was passed in the '80s. Currently, Abe Martin is grandfathered because it was built in 1973 before the ADA went into effect. Nothing can be done to add permenent seating to Abe Martin unless the whole and entire facility is brought up to current ADA standards, which it is not. This would cost several million dollars to get that done. The projects the past couple of years are not part of the stadium structure, so they do not fall under the ADA regulations.
Those projects are considered as cosmetic or superficial additions and are not an ADA concern.
To add just seating, your talking about total renovations to the seating, restrooms, concessions, press box and adding handi-cap accessable areas for about 100 people or more, to meet ADA regulations.
The school could put in very large "portable" or "moveable" aluminum seating sections, which would be not be secured or fixed in place as permenent. You could do this easily on the visitor side and add 1000 seats. However, they can't be bolted to the concrete pad.
Not exact, but similar to what Lufkin baseball has out at Garrison Field.
With that said, you can make addtions to the stadium structure and not meet ADA mandates, but your limited to $50,000.00 maximum and as most of you know, there is not much you can do to a facility for that amount of money.
Adding seating is not as easy as everyone persumes because of the ADA requirements. It takes alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that the school doesn't have or the tax payers want to support.
Under the circumstances we need to make the best of the seating situation we have at Abe Martin. Our new visitors from down south don't put the people in the seats like our friends from the old 12-5A did in the past. In fact last year KF and Oakridge didn't bring any fans or band to the game at Abe. There were plenty of seats.
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 10:12 AM
Lufkin gives the other school every opportunity to sell out their side of the stadium...if they don't...............what are they supposed to do?
Tell Lufkin fans..."Yeah we have seats.....but not for you" and just leave the seats empty?
Think before you type please. Thank you.
I did think - it's a terrible idea to allow fans from the home team to sit on the visitors side. The home team fans should be prepared to have an absolutely miserable game experience if they choose to sit on the Summit side.
ktchamp97
10-13-2006, 10:24 AM
I did think - it's a terrible idea to allow fans from the home team to sit on the visitors side. The home team fans should be prepared to have an absolutely miserable game experience if they choose to sit on the Summit side. The Katy crowd often spills over into the visitor's side at Rhodes...I don't think there's ever been a problem because of it. They usually sit around the upper edges of the stadium and they generally don't "mix" in with the other team's fans.
pack0808
10-13-2006, 10:27 AM
hey champ go get on the pick em thread and explain yourself. ;)
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 10:30 AM
The Katy crowd often spills over into the visitor's side at Rhodes...I don't think there's ever been a problem because of it. They usually sit around the upper edges of the stadium and they generally don't "mix" in with the other team's fans.
That wouldn't be so bad. From the pictures posted on this thread, it appeared the Lufkin fans sat right down in the middle of the LV fans. I can't imagine why you would want to do that unless you purposefully wanted to start something.
Favpack
10-13-2006, 10:34 AM
Not sure how boob jobs pay the bills. Would you explain that one to me?
I have been to lufkin. Give me Plano anytime or praticaly anywhere else for that matter.:)
Moron.
This statement coming from a (so-called) man that got his idea for a SLC upset while watching kiddie cartoons. Now that his team sucks for the 8th time in 9 years - he's got to disparage an entire town.
Here's an idea PWF - burn your Dallas Cowboy jammies, move out of your parents basement - and get a life.
I did think - it's a terrible idea to allow fans from the home team to sit on the visitors side. The home team fans should be prepared to have an absolutely miserable game experience if they choose to sit on the Summit side.
It surprises me that the Longview fans brought this up first when they've been doing this for many many years. Their band, drill team, pom squad, plus general admission students sit on the visitors side. Like was mentioned, Longview DID NOT even fill up the seats that were made avaialbe to them. 2/3's of the visitors side was reserved just for them. Believe me when I say they were much more comfortable than the Pack fans were. As well, I guess it is hard to understand what a fan base Lufkin has. Every year there are hundreds of people standing in line to get the chance for season tickets. Some camp out the day before just for the chacne to get what's left and most times it is not but about 80 or so tickets. As well, if you are fortunate enough to get in to buy them, you have to settle with one here a couple there type situation. There are just so many seats to be had and those who do not or cannot get tickets sit in general admission which a lot of them line up almost 4-5 hours before the game to get those. When teams do not have much of a fan base like we have experienced lately with the Houston schools, it is absurb to turn home folks away when there are empty seats to be had. It's not our fault other schools do not travel with their teams like we do. I will also add that sometimes on our road games Lufkin fans out number the home crowd. Maybe that will tell you what a fan base Lufkin has. It's like nothing I've ever seen for HS football. Heck, 3 of the last 4 biggest crowds at SFA were Lufkin games. From what I understand, there will be no more HS games for Lufkin at Nac Dragon stadium so when Nac is home, it will be played at SFA. This is what I've been told if the games are continued to be played. I think the Lufkin/Nac is the oldest continous games played in Texas. Not much of a reason to play but apparently it is important to somebody. Nac just don't have the capacity to handle our crowd. BTW, come to think of it, even Nac's band, drill team, and pep squad sits on the visitors side. It has been discussed about moving Lufkin's support groups (band, drill team, and Pom squad, to the visitors side and move GA back to the home side or seel it as more season tickets. I don't like the idea but right now the most trouble to be had on the vistors side is from visiting fans which is very little if any. So that's not realy a solution to any problems is it. A Lufkin game at Abe is a fun place to be. Maybe not if you are the visting team that just got beat, but no one likes losing.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 10:48 AM
I did think - it's a terrible idea to allow fans from the home team to sit on the visitors side. The home team fans should be prepared to have an absolutely miserable game experience if they choose to sit on the Summit side.
You didn't answer the question...
If the visiting team does not fill up all the seats what should Lufkin do?
Tell their fans "I know you would like to go to the game.......and I know there will be empty seats....but you can't go"
Think....THINK...that's what I meant by Think...
What should they do? Throw away the extra tickets because the opposing team might feel uncomfortable?
Some of you people are just dumb....really.
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 10:48 AM
Could they reserve sections then, so that the fans from one school don't sit right in the middle of fans from another school? Since expanding the stadium is not deemed to be an option...
LPFAN
10-13-2006, 10:49 AM
That wouldn't be so bad. From the pictures posted on this thread, it appeared the Lufkin fans sat right down in the middle of the LV fans. I can't imagine why you would want to do that unless you purposefully wanted to start something.
That is such a STUPID comment. I have seen mature adults to include some senior citizen Lufkin fans sit in the reserve section of the visitors side. I am so sure they are there to cause problems.:rolleyes: There have been many times where I have seen the visiting teams fans carry on friendly conversations with the Lufkin fans. Most of the Lufkin fans on the visitors side clap when an injured player from another team gets up and is alright because they are glad he is ok. They also clap for the visiting team's band when they are finished performing. Don't act like most people in Lufkin don't know how to act civilized. Sometimes it is a few of the visiting team's fans that want to act a fool and Lufkin has it's share of fans that act the same way. ALL SCHOOLS have those types. So are you going to start a "FOOTBALL FAN ACT" (a football version of the Patriot Act) to protect fans from each other by making sure that fans from opposing teams don't sit in the same stands?:rolleyes:
pack0808
10-13-2006, 10:49 AM
It surprises me that the Longview fans brought this up first when they've been doing this for many many years. Their band, drill team, pom squad, plus general admission students sit on the visitors side. Like was mentioned, Longview DID NOT even fill the seats that were made avaialbe to them. 2/3's of the visitors side was reserved just for them. Believe me when I say they were much more comfortable than the Pack fans were. As well, I guess it is hard to understand what a fan base Lufkin has. Every year there are hundreds of people standing in line to get the chance for season tickets. Some camp out the day before just for the chacne to get what's left and most times it is not but about 80 or so tickets. As well, if you are fortunate enough to get in to buy them, you have to settle with one here a couple there type situation. There are just so many seats to had and those who do not or cannot get tickets sit in general admission which a lot line up almost 4-5 hours before the game to get those. When teams do not have much of a fan base like we have experienced lately with the Houston schools, it is absurb to turn home folks away when there are empty seats to had. I will also add that sometimes on our road games our fans out number the home crowd. Maybe that will tell you what a fan base Lufkin has. It's like nothing I've ever seen for HS football. Heck, 3 of the last 4 biggest crowds at SFA were Lufkin games. From what I understand, there will no more HS games for Lufkin at Nac Dragon stadium. They just don't have the capacity to handle our crowd. BTW, come to think of it, even Nac's band, drill team, and pep squad sits on the visitors side. It has been discussed about moving Lufkin's support groups to the visitors side and move GA back to the home side. I don't like the idea but right now the most trouble to be had on the vistors side is from visiting fans. So that's not realy a solution to any problems.
Longview's band is on the visitor side also I am almost 100% sure? They have a lot of nerve.
pack0808
10-13-2006, 10:51 AM
Oh never mind you said that already pack. Great points by the way!
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 10:52 AM
You didn't answer the question...
If the visiting team does not fill up all the seats what should Lufkin do?
Tell their fans "I know you would like to go to the game.......and I know there will be empty seats....but you can't go"
Think....THINK...that's what I meant by Think...
What should they do? Throw away the extra tickets because the opposing team might feel uncomfortable?
Some of you people are just dumb....really.
Yes, I would tell them there are no available seats in their seating area. Not because it would make the visitors uncomfortable, but because it is not safe.
pack0808
10-13-2006, 10:54 AM
Yes, I would tell them there are no available seats in their seating area. Not because it would make the visitors uncomfortable, but because it is not safe.
You act like we have hardcore gangsters for fans??
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 10:57 AM
Yes, I would tell them there are no available seats in their seating area. Not because it would make the visitors uncomfortable, but because it is not safe.
So you would make one of the player's Mom,Dad,Aunt,Uncle,Sister,Grandma...etc...
Sit at home and listen to the game on the radio...WHEN THERE ARE EMPTY SEATS!!!!
Because it's not safe?
Yeah...so and so's 78 year old Grandma just got out of Huntsville for stabbing a Nacogdoches fan back in the late '60's.
Please...I'm begging you...think about what you are saying.
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 10:58 AM
I said no such thing. I said it is a bad idea for the home team to have it's fans come over and sit amongst the visiting fans.
If Lufkin has such a giant fan base that you have to endanger public safety by doing this, you really ought to crack loose and build a stadium that will house the teeming masses of Lufkin fans.
LPFAN
10-13-2006, 11:00 AM
I said no such thing. I said it is a bad idea for the home team to have it's fans come over and sit amongst the visiting fans.
If Lufkin has such a giant fan base that you have to endanger public safety by doing this, you really ought to crack loose and build a stadium that will house the teeming masses of Lufkin fans.
Man you are really embarrassing yourself. I would love to see how you would act if you had a kid playing and you could not sit on the home side. You see the visiting team's side is half full and you want to go sit there but you are turned away because "it is not safe." It is your son's first time to start in a varsity game and you missed it. Let's say you were able to sit on the visitors side. I guess you could tell your son that you missed his big game because the home side was full and you didn't think it was safe for you to sit on the visitors side.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 11:01 AM
I said no such thing. I said it is a bad idea for the home team to have it's fans come over and sit amongst the visiting fans.
If Lufkin has such a giant fan base that you have to endanger public safety by doing this, you really ought to crack loose and build a stadium that will house the teeming masses of Lufkin fans.
You gonna start the donations??
JagDad07
10-13-2006, 11:05 AM
We actually had a similar problem just like this and thus passed a bond to build a brand new stadium that I've shown on other threads.
But even back in the days when Summit packed their side of the old stadium, Summit fans were not allowed to go sit on the vacant visitor's side. It's a bad idea.
So yes, I donated towards solving our problem and helped pay for it as all the devoted Summit fans did. If the Lufkin fans are as passionate about your team as has been suggested on this thread, perhaps you could do the same.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 11:12 AM
NO...
Will you start the donations for Lufkin's new stadium?
If not ...then you should just sanction me with your army....uh-oh...you don't have an army...well then maybe you should .................................................. .....................
I know i got in line for general admission tickets at 4pm that day and the line was already there. Plane and simple lufkin doesnt have the money right now to expand the stadium since they would have to remodel the whole thing before expanding it. In my opinion building a auditorium at the high school is more important right now but thats another topic. So if you dont like abe dont come to the game. I kinda agree that it would be a good idea for the fans to be seperated, but honestly unless they are wearing a school shirt how do you know what school they are from? I mean if i went to a game at they said i couldnt sit on the visitors side because the lufkin part of it was filled up and i had a lufkin shirt on i would just change shirts.
My grandparents like to sit on the visitors side because there are less people standing up so its easier to see the game. I know when I go to another schools game (like i really want to catch one of slc this year before the playoffs) i my lufkin hat (though i find a shirt with the color of the team i was going tos upport). And generaly just leads to a conversation on how Lufkin is doing, sure u run into a couple of jerks every now and then but i generaly just blow it off, half the time that communities fans jump on them alot harder than I ever would have.
About the whole cop thing...yea the more you talk to more i disbelieve, a cop might have told u to sit down, but you were probably doing something that u shouldnt have done, which is why u didnt go report him to any officials.
KT2000
10-13-2006, 11:21 AM
I think a small pocket of Panther fans give the overall group a bad name.
I've sat with the Lufkin crowd on a couple of occassions and they are some of the very best football fans I've come across in this state.
I would say the huge majority of the Lufkin fans on the visitor's side are just there to enjoy the game, and do the normal thing. However, there are most definitely a contigent of the more "hard core" fans that will ruin the experience for some because they aren't there for the right reasons. That's unfortunate.
However, as someone who's sat with Lufkin fans I can say for sure they are among the most passionate in the state about their program. It's a lot of fun to sit with an LP crowd.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 11:48 AM
KT...
You mean you sat on the visitor's side and didn't get shot at?
The thugs must not have seen you...they would have split your out
of town wig homie.
KLH75287
10-13-2006, 01:04 PM
I sit on the visitors side at every game I am able to attend at Ol' Abe, and have seen very few even verbal confrontations or unfriendly exchanges between opposing fans. Of those, every one involved an idiot from both teams.
You can find the same thing at any public venue in the state.
mojotrain
10-13-2006, 01:26 PM
Yep it happens. Try going to Ratliff Stadium in Odessa.
Coog, Ratliff is the largest stadium in the district and if all the tickets are sold on the home side you gotta let the folks sit some where. When you come on the 20th. look at our the home side. From 30 to 30 are by and large season ticket holders. I'm not saying the seats are filled but they are sold. Because the visitors side is equal in size and no one except Lee and Ohs fill it then a lot of space is available. The Permian folks that go over there should show the same class as we on the home side do and be civil.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-13-2006, 01:37 PM
Moron.
This statement coming from a (so-called) man that got his idea for a SLC upset while watching kiddie cartoons. Now that his team sucks for the 8th time in 9 years - he's got to disparage an entire town.
Here's an idea PWF - burn your Dallas Cowboy jammies, move out of your parents basement - and get a life.
Confused on the SLC upset and cartoons? Please explain or is that your attempt of humor?
Your right Plano is not very good right now and until we get a new HC I am afraid nothing will change. However I will still take Plano over Lufkins Program anytime. Your team has been strong for 6 years? Plano in General has been strong for 75. I will take my 7 State rings over your 1 anyday.
I apoligize about degrading Lukin. Let me rephrase: I will take living in Plano anyday than living in Lufkin. I'm sure Lufkin is nicer than most towns in Texas.
Finally your statement of me living at home with Mommy & Daddy's basement and getting a life. Pretty original. Just because I think your stadium needs to be replaced with a new one to match the level of your program which in your heart you know is true shouldn't be the catalsyt of bashing the messenger and calling him less than a man on a true statement.
I'm afraid what you might call me if I had anything to say negative about the program.:D
DipnSpit
10-13-2006, 01:42 PM
Why so defensive Lufkin fans? I mean, you guys are the ones looking like fools here.... blasting people left and right...
Don't get your purple panties in a wad just cause the guy said you need a new stadium...
pack0808
10-13-2006, 03:24 PM
Confused on the SLC upset and cartoons? Please explain or is that your attempt of humor?
Your right Plano is not very good right now and until we get a new HC I am afraid nothing will change. However I will still take Plano over Lufkins Program anytime. Your team has been strong for 6 years? Plano in General has been strong for 75. I will take my 7 State rings over your 1 anyday.
I apoligize about degrading Lukin. Let me rephrase: I will take living in Plano anyday than living in Lufkin. I'm sure Lufkin is nicer than most towns in Texas.
Finally your statement of me living at home with Mommy & Daddy's basement and getting a life. Pretty original. Just because I think your stadium needs to be replaced with a new one to match the level of your program which in your heart you know is true shouldn't be the catalsyt of bashing the messenger and calling him less than a man on a true statement.
I'm afraid what you might call me if I had anything to say negative about the program.:D
Lufkin has been a good team for a lot more then 6 years you are delusional. Look up the facts before saying something like that. Yes they have only had 1 state championship but they are up there on the all time list in wins and have many many good teams through the years. And oh yes yall were a great team back in 1840 there is no question. I would rather be good in the present then brag about championships way back when the Brady Bunch was the most popular show on tv but that is just me.
pack0808
10-13-2006, 03:26 PM
Why so defensive Lufkin fans? I mean, you guys are the ones looking like fools here.... blasting people left and right...
Don't get your purple panties in a wad just cause the guy said you need a new stadium...
Looking like fools for defending our stadium and alma mater? :rolleyes: okie dokie bro? Telling us not to get our purple panties in a wad? Something tells me that you swallow more then spit?
DipnSpit
10-13-2006, 03:40 PM
Looking like fools for defending our stadium and alma mater? :rolleyes: okie dokie bro? Telling us not to get our purple panties in a wad? Something tells me that you swallow more then spit?
See what I mean? At least 75% of the Lufkin fans posts in this thread have done nothing but prove that the original poster of this thread is correct... keep on bashing LP fan, keep on bashing....
pack0808
10-13-2006, 04:17 PM
See what I mean? At least 75% of the Lufkin fans posts in this thread have done nothing but prove that the original poster of this thread is correct... keep on bashing LP fan, keep on bashing....
I just teased you back after you said some of us Lufkin fans had our purple panties in a wad? Talk about having your panties in a wad!! You must be wearing some big dipnspit grandma panties!! :eek: ;)
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 04:36 PM
It's lonely at the top...
Haters all around you...yaaaawn...oh my the stadium smack is
gonna keep us up at night.
EasTex9
10-13-2006, 04:49 PM
I believe the thread started with a bashing of Lufkin fan behavior and then tying it into a community problem. There may be some Lufkin fans that get a little worked up now and then, but where have you not seen this on this type of forum.
P08 is correct, Lufkin has been solid for a long time and yes in the past 6-years or so they have really stepped it up.
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grayowl60
10-13-2006, 05:09 PM
Don't try and defend your stadium. Its old, its gray and dungy looking and is second only to Allens dump as the worst in the state for a top program. At least yours is made of concrete not lead tainted rusting wood like Allen's.
Lufkin should anty up and spend some money to remodel or build a new one.
Duh, less see. Lufkin population: 34500. Plano population:243500
Lufkin isd; 6500 students. Plano isd; 53000 students
( about one in five students at Lufkin HS plays varsity football. About one in ten at Plano high school students play varsity football)
I have spent time in Lufkin,in Plano and South Lake. I would take Lufkin over those three.
I dont think Plano people would care to talk about comparing tax base numbers with Lufkin. And yes there is a big boob job industry there to pay part of it. Im sure some of the "chemical" industry in Plano doesnt pay much.:eek: OMG now I will be jealous, ignorant etc. lol
EasTex9
10-13-2006, 05:17 PM
Plano Wildcat Fan is in a state of depression (another thread he started) so go easy on him...:D
Why so defensive Lufkin fans? I mean, you guys are the ones looking like fools here.... blasting people left and right...
Don't get your purple panties in a wad just cause the guy said you need a new stadium...
Opinions are great and I will discuss, debate, or whatever with anyone based on opinions. But, To come on here and just flat out lie to gain sympathy is something I felt needed addressing. The stadium thing is just how it is. I explained this to deaf ears I guess. Abe is a nice stadium but yes it is old. That is not front page news or something we need called to our attention. We already have the 411 on it. This is a place we use for 5 home games and a few other activities. Since the turf was put in last year we were able to host many playoff games last year. Some while we ourselves were on the road in the playoffs. Maybe someday some major overhauls can be made but not right now. There are other issues that need addressing first. IF they wanted to vote a bond to do it I would be up front to do it but I'm in the minority on this. We have several private schools and smaller schools here where kids actually live in Lufkin ISD but pay to go to the smaller schools. They don't want to pay for any thing.
So, panty wading or not, if someone throws a rock you can expect to see one coming back.
DipnSpit
10-13-2006, 09:27 PM
That is not front page news or something we need called to our attention. We already have the 411 on it.
Same could be said about SLC..... but for some reason people keep creating threads about them....
pack0808
10-13-2006, 10:31 PM
I believe the thread started with a bashing of Lufkin fan behavior and then tying it into a community problem. There may be some Lufkin fans that get a little worked up now and then, but where have you not seen this on this type of forum.
P08 is correct, Lufkin has been solid for a long time and yes in the past 6-years or so they have really stepped it up.
Titles and Championships (Started in 1911)
District Championships
1936, 1937, 1938, 1940, 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1954, 1960 (shared), 1962(shared), 1977 (shared), 1979, 1986, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005
Bi-District Championships
1936, 1942, 1943, 1944, 1946, 1954, 1960, 1962, 1986, 1988, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005
Second Round
1936, 1942, 1962, Quarterfinalists
1988, 1994, 1998, 2000 Area
Third Round
1944, 1946, 1962 State Semifinalists
1988, 1998, 2000 Region Semifinals
1994 Quarterfinals
Fourth Round
1998 Region Finalists
Fifth Round
2001,2002, 2004, 2005 State Semifinalists
1943 STATE RUNNER UPS
2001 5A DIV I STATE CHAMPIONS
Playoff Seasons
1936, 1938, 1940, 1942, 1943, 1944, 1946, 1947, 1954, 1960, 1962, 1977, 1979, 1986, 1988, 1994, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
2001 5a div2 state champions!
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-13-2006, 10:43 PM
Lufkin has been a good team for a lot more then 6 years you are delusional. Look up the facts before saying something like that. Yes they have only had 1 state championship but they are up there on the all time list in wins and have many many good teams through the years. And oh yes yall were a great team back in 1840 there is no question. I would rather be good in the present then brag about championships way back when the Brady Bunch was the most popular show on tv but that is just me.
Yes Plano won state championships during Andy Griffin Show, The Brady Bunch, Charlies Angels, Cosby Show, Cheers, Seinfield. I don't know about you those are some pretty good TV shows. Like I said I will take my 7 over your 1 anyday no matter how good you guys are today. if you can't get through SLC you will still have 1 for a while.
BeauxGeezy
10-13-2006, 10:44 PM
Who the hell is Andy Griffin? Was that Opie's cousin or somethin'???
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-13-2006, 10:47 PM
2001 5a div2 state champions!
Not quite to Plano's standard but your working on it. Maybe in 30 years you'll match Plano's records only if Plano stops playing football.:) Just Kidding.
Relax you guys have a good team. Coach Outlaw has raised your level of the program over the last 8 years or so. Enjoy the ride it doesn't last forever. Honestly, though you do need a new stadium.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-13-2006, 10:50 PM
Duh, less see. Lufkin population: 34500. Plano population:243500
Lufkin isd; 6500 students. Plano isd; 53000 students
( about one in five students at Lufkin HS plays varsity football. About one in ten at Plano high school students play varsity football)
I have spent time in Lufkin,in Plano and South Lake. I would take Lufkin over those three.
I dont think Plano people would care to talk about comparing tax base numbers with Lufkin. And yes there is a big boob job industry there to pay part of it. Im sure some of the "chemical" industry in Plano doesnt pay much.:eek: OMG now I will be jealous, ignorant etc. lol
Your back. I thought you might of went into hibernation since Garland has pretty much been the biggest disappointment so far in the metroplex. I see you haven't lost your CHIP on your shoulder. :) Welcome back.
drgnbkr
10-13-2006, 11:01 PM
Your back. I thought you might of went into hibernation since Garland has pretty much been the biggest disappointment so far in the metroplex. I see you haven't lost your CHIP on your shoulder. :) Welcome back.
Might of went?.....:eek:
grayowl60
10-13-2006, 11:59 PM
Might of went?.....:eek:
Its Plano (silicone/plastic/cocaine/ concrete, city) speak. lol.Thats ok because he has a ring and season tickets;) OMG Plano won, may need to start a gloat thread. Maybe we will be spared the Plano coach bashing for a while anyway;)
grayowl60
10-14-2006, 12:22 AM
Your back. I thought you might of went into hibernation since Garland has pretty much been the biggest disappointment so far in the metroplex. I see you haven't lost your CHIP on your shoulder. :) Welcome back.
Oh, is the season over?:confused: we are just having a good time over here in little Garland watching 16 and 17 year old young people playing sports. Best game I saw all year was Garlands loss to Plano East. We almost made a Ceder Hill type comeback. I didnt need prozac, but I did have an adult beverage after the game:eek:
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-14-2006, 12:29 AM
Oh, is the season over?:confused: we are just having a good time over here in little Garland watching 16 and 17 year old young people playing sports. Best game I saw all year was Garlands loss to Plano East. We almost made a Ceder Hill type comeback. I didnt need prozac, but I did have an adult beverage after the game:eek:
Never said the season was over but so far you have been the biggest disappointment other than Berkner. Would you not agree? Going from a National Ranking to 2 loses in the first 5 games.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-14-2006, 12:31 AM
Might of went?.....:eek:
OK. might of gone!! Is that better? I forgot all you SLC's have that Harvard education out their and speak the queens english.
pack0808
10-15-2006, 03:59 AM
Again congrats on your champioinships from the Nixon and Reagan era. Yall have sucked for almost a decade now egads toolboy. Put Lufkin in weak *** div1 with no SLC and Lufkin has 4 championships.
hoo2ers
10-15-2006, 06:40 AM
I will take my 7 State rings over your 1 anyday.
Is the UIL aware of your eligibility issues and what will your kids think when you tell them how many years it took you to complete High School.:D
I had the chance to see a game at Lufkin last year and found it to be a great place with classy folks.
packfan75
10-15-2006, 08:17 AM
OK. might of gone!! Is that better? I forgot all you SLC's have that Harvard education out their and speak the queens english.
Actually, it should be "might have gone". I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just saying........ And it's the KING'S English.
Now stop all the bickering. You're both pretty.
jrock210
10-15-2006, 10:19 AM
Back in the 70's when Judson was in a district with teams from Laredo, the Judson buses would stop at the Laredo city limits so they could wait for a police escort to the stadium and after the game they were escorted back to the city limits.
that happens to any team that plays in laredo...back when i lived in corpus christi i rode with the band and we got shot at...those fans take football seriously
mojotrain
10-15-2006, 11:46 AM
that happens to any team that plays in laredo...back when i lived in corpus christi i rode with the band and we got shot at...those fans take football seriously
Don't be for certain those were football fans. If you were on school buses, maybe, but if you were on charters, You would be suprised how much those chrome steel wheels and 12 ply tires go for in their motherland.
CoveMom
10-15-2006, 01:03 PM
Actually, it should be "might have gone". I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just saying........ And it's the KING'S English.
Now stop all the bickering. You're both pretty.
I think HER Majesty, Elizabeth II, might disagree with you on that one. In very proper Queen's English, at that. :D
pack0808
10-15-2006, 02:16 PM
Again congrats on your champioinships from the Nixon and Reagan era. Yall have sucked for almost a decade now egads toolboy. Put Lufkin in weak *** div1 with no SLC and Lufkin has 4 championships.
Not necessary my bad. Plano has a great history and I realize that, and div1 was not weak at all in 03. I was just on the board too late if you know what I mean?;)
jrock210
10-15-2006, 03:04 PM
Don't be for certain those were football fans. If you were on school buses, maybe, but if you were on charters, You would be suprised how much those chrome steel wheels and 12 ply tires go for in their motherland.
lol ya good point...but we were on charters
packfan75
10-15-2006, 06:27 PM
I think HER Majesty, Elizabeth II, might disagree with you on that one. In very proper Queen's English, at that. :D
LOL I bow to your opinion, Lady CoveMom. :)
toddg
10-15-2006, 10:37 PM
Not necessary my bad. Plano has a great history and I realize that, and div1 was not weak at all in 03. I was just on the board too late if you know what I mean?;)
hey..plano won one in the clinton era too..lol..besides they have won ALOT more championships than lufkin..great history is an understatement!
CoveMom
10-15-2006, 10:53 PM
LOL I bow to your opinion, Lady CoveMom. :)
thank you. we forgive you:D
King's/Queen's depends upon which is on the throne at the time. Fun, idiotic bit of information from reading WAY too many English novels.:cool:
CoveMom
10-15-2006, 10:54 PM
It occurs to me that this thread has been hijacked in many different directions. Am I participating in my first hikack?
pack0808
10-15-2006, 11:01 PM
hey..plano won one in the clinton era too..lol..besides they have won ALOT more championships than lufkin..great history is an understatement!
Yeah but they sure have stunk it up in the last 10 years besides last year.
packfan75
10-16-2006, 07:14 AM
It occurs to me that this thread has been hijacked in many different directions. Am I participating in my first hikack?
I think so - and it may very well be the first royal hijacking in history!:p
mojotrain
10-17-2006, 09:52 PM
lol ya good point...but we were on charters
Well thats what I meant. We would send long strings of hopper cars through bordertowns full of Polymers and on into Mexico. when they were returned to us m t the cast aluminum hatches were gone along with ever thing bolted or screwed on to the cars. They usually left a little suprise inside for us too.:eek:
LoneRocket
10-17-2006, 10:06 PM
that happens to any team that plays in laredo...back when i lived in corpus christi i rode with the band and we got shot at...those fans take football seriously
Sniff and I thought we were just special.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-18-2006, 10:29 AM
Again congrats on your champioinships from the Nixon and Reagan era. Yall have sucked for almost a decade now egads toolboy. Put Lufkin in weak *** div1 with no SLC and Lufkin has 4 championships.
You guys weren't very good for say a 40 year stretch. When you start saying if or but we would have these many championships you know your reaching trying. Guess what SLC is their and yes they whipped your ***. Guess what you have 1 championship.
Like I said I will take my 7 have a bad 10 year stretch compared to your 1 and 40 year stretch of stinko football.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-18-2006, 10:30 AM
Actually, it should be "might have gone". I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just saying........ And it's the KING'S English.
Now stop all the bickering. You're both pretty.
It all depends whose on the throne. I believe its QE2.
texasboy
10-18-2006, 10:34 AM
well it was better then the year lufkin lost to tyler lee i think at home and the lufkin fans started throwing cups full of soda and water and ice in the tyler lee section
CoveMom
10-18-2006, 01:10 PM
It all depends whose on the throne. I believe its QE2.
QE2 is an ocean liner. Her Majesty, Elizabeth II, is the queen of England. :D
(or so it was explained on my Atlantic passage in 1989 on the QE2)
packfan75
10-18-2006, 09:00 PM
QE2 is an ocean liner. Her Majesty, Elizabeth II, is the queen of England. :D
(or so it was explained on my Atlantic passage in 1989 on the QE2)
I thought she appeared as though she had gained a bit of weight, but to call her an ocean liner is just harsh.:D
well it was better then the year lufkin lost to tyler lee i think at home and the lufkin fans started throwing cups full of soda and water and ice in the tyler lee section
If I'm not mistaken (it was a long time ago) that was an overtime game a Lee won it witht he last score. Anyway, to say "The Fans" did it is including some 9000 plus folks. To say one or two knuckleheaded kids did it is something totally different. If it was a problem then they should have been reported to a police officer who I'm sure was not far away. I hear assult with a cup of water will get you 2-10 in the big house.
If I'm not mistaken (it was a long time ago) that was an overtime game a Lee won it witht he last score. Anyway, to say "The Fans" did it is including some 9000 plus folks. To say one or two knuckleheaded kids did it is something totally different. If it was a problem then they should have been reported to a police officer who I'm sure was not far away. I hear assult with a cup of water will get you 2-10 in the big house.
I think this one has just about run its course.... Can I get a second on placing a RIP on this one, please.........
backthepack
10-20-2006, 08:55 AM
Hmmm...the assault with a cup of water sounds like a grand idea. Thanks, I'll use that tonight against Oak Ridge...since us Lufkin "FANS" are suddenly criminals.
3rd.
bullrock
10-20-2006, 08:58 AM
Shame on ya'll. Twenty lashes after you win your ring this year.
pack0808
10-20-2006, 09:51 AM
You guys weren't very good for say a 40 year stretch. When you start saying if or but we would have these many championships you know your reaching trying. Guess what SLC is their and yes they whipped your ***. Guess what you have 1 championship.
Like I said I will take my 7 have a bad 10 year stretch compared to your 1 and 40 year stretch of stinko football.
Lufkin had some great battles with Plano back in the days look them up. Almost always very close games. On SLC whuppin are butt? The first 2 games in 02 and 04 literally came down to the final play of the game? How is that a butt whippin again?
And guess what yall are very mediocre in the present and you were just 0-10 a few years ago. Hopefully yall can go 7-3 this year good luck?
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