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10-02-2006, 08:34 PM

t00 playa

10-02-2006, 08:36 PM

There was a thread about san antonio owning Houston schools. But on the basis of the city limits signs, what true schools, inside the "loops" have a true powerhouse programs. Katy, woodlands, Northshore, SV, SLC all are considered outside of the city. I'm just wondering about the other schools (I'm not talking about demographics) are playoffs contenders each year.

nobody in houston .. thats for sure... closest thing would be lamar... but HISD is gone..and wont be the power they once were....:eek:

HUM398

10-02-2006, 08:52 PM

nobody in houston .. thats for sure... closest thing would be lamar... but HISD is gone..and wont be the power they once were....:eek:

Even lamar i believe is outside the loop..Not sure though

NSStangs#1fan

10-02-2006, 09:11 PM

There was a thread about san antonio owning Houston schools. But on the basis of the city limits signs, what true schools, inside the "loops" have a true powerhouse programs. Katy, woodlands, Northshore, SV, SLC all are considered outside of the city. I'm just wondering about the other schools (I'm not talking about demographics) are playoffs contenders each year.

Even though NS is technacally outside city limits when I address my envelopes they say Houston!:D The Woodlands and Katy are suburbs of Houston like how Manhattan(sp?) is a suburb of NY. As for HISD having any power houses...???

Fan4Life

10-02-2006, 09:12 PM

What about Westfield? are they in the loop?

hornfan713

10-02-2006, 09:13 PM

lamar is inside loop 610 in houston.

i can't think of a school inside the "loops" that really dominates. the closest would be some of the dallas schools like carter and skyline, but i have no idea how close into the city center those are.

78 Spartan

10-02-2006, 09:13 PM

Even lamar i believe is outside the loop..Not sure though

Nope, Lamar is inside the 610 loop, Westheimer @ River Oaks.

Also, North Shore HS is in the city of Houston. I checked.

In recent years, you have to go back to Madison (Vince Young), Aldine and Ike in the 90s, and before that Yates and Stratford in the 80s to find state contenders inside the Houston city limits.

Like in Dallas, the flight to the suburbs has impacted the quality of the high school athletic programs in Houston, and HISD is running on a shoestring.

San Antonio seems to have maintained some quality inside the city. Not sure why that is, demographically. Maybe one of our 26-5A brothers can explain why.

Fan4Life

10-02-2006, 09:15 PM

woops my bad on my last post, i was thinking of westside and they arent that hott.

t00 playa

10-02-2006, 09:15 PM

What about Westfield? are they in the loop?

nope... not even close

NSStangs#1fan

10-02-2006, 09:16 PM

Nope, Lamar is inside the 610 loop, Westheimer @ River Oaks.

Also, North Shore HS is in the city of Houston. I checked.

In recent years, you have to go back to Madison (Vince Young), Aldine and Ike in the 90s, and before that Yates and Stratford in the 80s to find state contenders inside the Houston city limits.

Like in Dallas, the flight to the suburbs has impacted the quality of the high school athletic programs in Houston, and HISD is running on a shoestring.

San Antonio seems to have maintained some quality inside the city. Not sure why that is, demographically. Maybe one of our 26-5A brothers can explain why.

U r right I remember seeing the "Now enter Houston city limits sign" like 1 block b4 u hit the school. However North Shore Senior High, where most of our varsity players go, is not w/in the limits... I don't think.

t00 playa

10-02-2006, 09:17 PM

Nope, Lamar is inside the 610 loop, Westheimer @ River Oaks.

Also, North Shore HS is in the city of Houston. I checked.

In recent years, you have to go back to Madison (Vince Young), Aldine and Ike in the 90s, and before that Yates and Stratford in the 80s to find state contenders inside the Houston city limits.

Like in Dallas, the flight to the suburbs has impacted the quality of the high school athletic programs in Houston, and HISD is running on a shoestring.

San Antonio seems to have maintained some quality inside the city. Not sure why that is, demographically. Maybe one of our 26-5A brothers can explain why.

he said loop.... so i took it literally i guess.. and not houston city limits.....

Fan4Life

10-02-2006, 09:18 PM

nope... not even close

ya i corrected myself, was thinking of westside

t00 playa

10-02-2006, 09:18 PM

U r right I remember seeing the "Now enter Houston city limits sign" like 1 block b4 u hit the school. However North Shore Senior High, where most of our varsity players go, is not w/in the limits... I don't think.

its got a houston address....

but as far as city limits.. its right on the border...but i dont know exactly where the city limit lines are drawn.. but i know which signs you are referring to:eek:

t00 playa

10-02-2006, 09:19 PM

ya i corrected myself, was thinking of westside

yeah.. westside is not too great either.. :eek:

cyfallsbooster2

10-02-2006, 09:48 PM

So what are we talking here? In Houston area, at least 75% of the contenders are outside loop 610. I believe ALL oof 265a is outside the "loop" (or at least their real contenders). Dallas, I am unsure of....D.Cater? Now, are we talking about the latest Loops? The beltway....Grand Parkway.....where do we stop?:D

Fan4Life

10-02-2006, 09:49 PM

:rolleyes: yeah.. westside is not too great either.. :eek:

Slim-Rob

10-02-2006, 10:16 PM

Judson is inside Loop 1604 in San Antonio. So are some of the NEISD schools.

lonny23

10-02-2006, 10:49 PM

Judson is inside Loop 1604 in San Antonio. So are some of the NEISD schools.
I think they're talking about 410.

Outside Loop 1604

SV
Reagan
O'Connor

Inside 410

Jay
Lee
Holmes
Highlands
Warren (I think)

Between 1604 and 410

Marshall
Clark
Stevens
East Central
Roosevelt
Madison
Wagner
Judson
Churchill
MacArthur
Southwest (I think)
Taft (Maybe)

BandidoNB

10-02-2006, 10:54 PM

I think they're talking about 410.

Outside Loop 1604

SV
Reagan
O'Connor

Inside 410

Jay
Lee
Holmes
Highlands
Warren (I think)

Between 1604 and 410

Marshall
Clark
Stevens
East Central
Roosevelt
Madison
Wagner
Judson
Churchill
MacArthur
Southwest (I think)
Taft (Maybe)

You almost correct, but Warren is actually outside of 410 but inside 1604

singularity

10-02-2006, 11:02 PM

like how Manhattan(sp?) is a suburb of NY.
FYI: NYC is composed of 5 boroughs: Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. Manhattan is considered the city (downtown) not a suburb. Staten Island is the most suburban-like.

NSStangs#1fan

10-02-2006, 11:10 PM

My bad I didn't know. But u get what I'm saying.

Rerun

10-03-2006, 12:01 AM

I think they're talking about 410.

Outside Loop 1604

SV
Reagan
O'Connor

Inside 410

Jay
Lee
Holmes
Highlands
Warren (I think)

Between 1604 and 410

Marshall
Clark
Stevens
East Central
Roosevelt
Madison
Wagner
Judson
Churchill
MacArthur
Southwest (I think)
Taft (Maybe)

East Central = Outside 1604
Taft = Outside 1604
Warren = Outside 410

DrEdward

10-03-2006, 02:17 AM

Even though NS is technacally outside city limits when I address my envelopes they say Houston!:D The Woodlands and Katy are suburbs of Houston like how Manhattan(sp?) is a suburb of NY. As for HISD having any power houses...???

It just doesn't get any more urban city center than Manhattan Island.

lonny23

10-03-2006, 02:24 AM

FYI: NYC is composed of 5 boroughs: Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. Manhattan is considered the city (downtown) not a suburb. Staten Island is the most suburban-like.
That's all true and Staten Island even votes Republican.

Twin Threat

10-03-2006, 04:41 AM

South Texas

10-03-2006, 06:54 AM

AHS Mustangs

10-03-2006, 10:56 AM

I didn't want to say the city limits sign, because you would get katy, clark and others. Technically you can say Roosevelt because it is right on the loop. I know madison had VY and was great, but i didn't know if there was any other such as Yates and Aldine in 80's

Technically Aldine was just moved into the "city limits" in the mid 90s. Before that, they were still in the county.

dada

10-03-2006, 11:24 AM

We talked about this earlier..."INSIDE the loop is booming now" so they future may look better for schools like Lamar. Westside is technically outside the loop and the beltway. If you drive around the Third Ward/UofH areas you will see alot of expensive high rise communities being thrown up so I will say in the next 10-15 years...Yates may eventually have a different look, which COULD be good. Lamar,Bellaire and Westside will continue to dominate HISD year in year out.

mad_fan

10-03-2006, 12:09 PM

There was a thread about san antonio owning Houston schools. But on the basis of the city limits signs, what true schools, inside the "loops" have a true powerhouse programs. Katy, woodlands, Northshore, SV, SLC all are considered outside of the city. I'm just wondering about the other schools (I'm not talking about demographics) are playoffs contenders each year.

Inside or out of this loop or that...
I believe SA Madison has more 5A quarter final loses than anybody ever...:eek:
Does that make us contenders???:confused:

dragonsdaddy

10-03-2006, 12:27 PM

Inside or out of this loop or that...
I believe SA Madison has more 5A quarter final loses than anybody ever...:eek:
Does that make us contenders???:confused:
no, that means you had the pleasure of playing in the same region as coju.

mad_fan

10-03-2006, 12:48 PM

no, that means you had the pleasure of playing in the same region as coju.

NONE of those was to BIG J...

mad_fan

10-03-2006, 05:20 PM

no, that means you had the pleasure of playing in the same region as coju.

Mad Qtr final losses were to:

Mission
Marshall
Holmes
Mac
Westlake
SV x 2

lonny23

10-03-2006, 06:55 PM

NONE of those was to BIG J...
Mad BEAT Judson in a Quarterfinal in the 80's. That was before Satan took over. He was just a little devil then!:p

mad_fan

10-03-2006, 07:08 PM

Mad BEAT Judson in a Quarterfinal in the 80's. That was before Satan took over. He was just a little devil then!:p

Thanks for bringing that up...1984 I believe...another thing I hate about the French...

Uninformed readers:confused: