SLC vs. Midland Lee Predictions....

[BigFanSLC]

ITS THAT TIME AGAIN! Saturday the 27th of August @ 2:00 p.m. the Southlake Carroll Dragons will take on the Midland Lee Rebels in Abilene, TX at Shotwell Stadium.

SLC- 30
MLH- 10

[southlake thug]

SLC will win by a score of 57-13

McElroy will throw for 5 td's a run of 1 and over 500 yds. of passing offense.

[LeanderLions3033]

SLC 38
Midland14

If McElroy ever for any reason throws for 500 yards and the score is that lop sided, then yall got some coaches that just dont care about the little things in football. When a score is that lopsided you should be handing it off every play. I don't think Dodge would continue passing on 1st and 2nd down if SLC was winning by 40. Thats just my opinion.

[WestTXRebel]

Midland Lee 28
Southlake Carroll 21

WestTXRebel

[dragons08]

SLC 56
Lee 14

i saw a cool commerical, on UPN earlier, it was i think luna running in for the score, followed by peyton manning thorwing a touchdown, advertsing for slc game follwed by colts game

[LoboFan07]

Midland Lee 28
Southlake Carroll 21

I wouldnt be surprised if that happens.

I'll go with Lee-35 SLC-31

[Favpack]

Midland Lee 28
Southlake Carroll 21

WestTXRebel

There we go -- now we're getting some WestTexas action here! But, I'm thinking this game won't be as close as last year's game - and that one wasn't close.

I'm afraid SLC takes this one way big - like Dodge plays the entire second half and throws about 3 td's himself.

I got it at:

SLC - 54
Lee - 14

[drgnbkr]

There we go -- now we're getting some WestTexas action here! But, I'm thinking this game won't be as close as last year's game - and that one wasn't close.

I'm afraid SLC takes this one way big - like Dodge plays the entire second half and throws about 3 td's himself.

I got it at:

SLC - 54
Lee - 14

I would agree with your prediction fav...too much against too little...& it will definately be too hot!

[toonman]

Here is a report from a midland newspaper - MyWest Texas, with a report from the Amarillo/Midland lee scrimmage. It will be a long day for Lee fans.

Southlake 52
Midland Lee 16

The report is as follows :-"The Lee football team had flashes of good plays in its only scrimmage of the preseason on Friday against Amarillo High, but coach Randy Quisenberry was not very pleased with the overall play of his squad.


Amarillo High scored four touchdowns during the controlled set, while Lee scored one, a touchdown scamper of about 30 yards by running back Trent Hines. Other than that, though, it was just not a good day for the Rebels.


"Obviously we've got to get a whole lot better," Quisenberry said. "Our defensive front was very, very poor and our offensive line didn't have a great game. We just didn't look very sharp. We were tentative."


The one area Quisenberry was possibly most worried about entering the scrimmage, his secondary, turned out to be the one place the coach was happy about.


Four new players were seeing their first extensive varsity action, and a couple responded. Junior Desmond Jackson and sophomore Kyle Logsdone intercepted Sandie passes.


Quisenberry knows Amarillo High does have quite the passing game Southlake Carroll possesses, but it was a bright spot on an otherwise tough day for the defense.


"Really and truthfully, without looking at the video, it might be the only bright spot defensively that we had," Quisenberry said. "I came away with something and feeling good about those guys. They stepped up their game a little bit and let's just hope the rest of us do the same."


The quarterback situation might have become less murky on Friday as well. Quisenberry said Brandon Williamson had a rough start throwing the ball, but as the scrimmage progressed he became more comfortable and made better throws.


Meanwhile, Trevor Day had a solid day running ball in the Rebels' one-back scheme.


Who will start next week, though, is still up in the air and Quisenberry said the lack of a running game didn't help their progress.


The teams did play a 12-minute quarter, but it was with a running clock and each team had one offensive possession with the Rebels picking up a couple of first downs."

[bhs06]

Midland Lee - 42
SLC - 39

This game will be Trinity vs. Tyler Lee(first game) of the 2005 season. There may or may not be a power outage though

[Texasfrog]

SLC 38
Midland14

If McElroy ever for any reason throws for 500 yards and the score is that lop sided, then yall got some coaches that just dont care about the little things in football. When a score is that lopsided you should be handing it off every play. I don't think Dodge would continue passing on 1st and 2nd down if SLC was winning by 40. Thats just my opinion.

Ya... the only coach I've seen do that the last few years is Mike Leach (Tx Tech). I couldnt believe last season when he was throwing the football with under a minute in the game against California. Even I was getting Po'd. All he had to do was take 3 knee's and the game would of been over but he just kept passing and passing.

[dentonRYAN]

SLC 28
MidlandLee 24

id be suprised with a blowout....or a SLC lose....but ive been wrong before

[CoppellCowboy57]

Okay i know I hate SLC, but come one what are the chances there going to suck this year...

SLC 42
Midland 16

[BAMF cowboy]

Anyone who predicts Midland Lee over Southlake has had one too many to drink. Consider the Dragon's track record...30 - 0 in the past 3 seasons in regular season games. As someone posted earlier, Midland Lee had a terrible scrimmage against Amarillo. And with the unlikeliness for the Dragons to slip this season, I don't think there is any reason for anyone to call the upset. Of course, a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, but not this time...

Disagree all you want, come next Saturday I'll be right.

Not disrespecting, just stating

[dragons08]

Anyone who predicts Midland Lee over Southlake has had one too many to drink. Consider the Dragon's track record...30 - 0 in the past 3 seasons in regular season games. As someone posted earlier, Midland Lee had a terrible scrimmage against Amarillo. And with the unlikeliness for the Dragons to slip this season, I don't think there is any reason for anyone to call the upset. Of course, a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, but not this time...

Disagree all you want, come next Saturday I'll be right.

Not disrespecting, just stating
wheres texasfrog, he wanted me to do the pushups, heres a crew member frogy, he'll do them proudly! right man?

[Texasfrog]

wheres texasfrog, he wanted me to do the pushups, heres a crew member frogy, he'll do them proudly! right man?

Ya, but until I see him doing them one handed I dont care. I want to see ya Dragon08 pushing them out.

Start Pushing !!! Something tells me that by the end of December the crew is going to have done about 800 push-ups.

[Mad Hatter]

Lee will score but not enough, trent hines will get some yardage but sadly he wont be able to do it all himself.

SlC 56
Lee 14

MH

[jtk1519]

I'll be at the stadium cheering for Lee (even though I am a closet Dragon fan), but I cant see the Rebels pulling this one off.

Reports from the scrimmage aside, Quisenberry coached teams just dont play good defense. It has never been a matter of talent, but rather a poor scheme. Because of this, expect SLC to score early and often. What Lee needs to do is simply score more than SLC... that is where the reports from the scrimmage come in.

The poor play from the O-line in the scrimmage bothers me. Especially when you consider that none of the possible QBs are as athletic as the previous QB. One of the biggest reasons Quiz succeeded at Cooper was because of great play from the line. Without the cattle up front, I dont know if Cooper would have won 15 games during Quiz' 5 years here.

I also think Hines may struggle early on. His job was made a lot easier last year because defenses had to worry about Trent running as well as Jamie (the QB). Both had to be respected equally which means neither player could be key in on. That will not be the case this year. Think about how Cedric Benson would have done last year without Vince Young taking a lot of the pressure off... not near as well as he did, I'll tell you that. Trent will be in that situation this year.

While I think Quiz will eventualy get his team rolling, I think beating SLC in week 0 is just too much to ask.

SLC 49 - Lee 21

[fabdragnfan]

Can't wait to officially start the season!

SLC 42
Lee 12

[Fleeman93]

Anyone who predicts Midland Lee over Southlake has had one too many to drink. Consider the Dragon's track record...30 - 0 in the past 3 seasons in regular season games. As someone posted earlier, Midland Lee had a terrible scrimmage against Amarillo. And with the unlikeliness for the Dragons to slip this season, I don't think there is any reason for anyone to call the upset. Of course, a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, but not this time...

Disagree all you want, come next Saturday I'll be right.

Not disrespecting, just stating

That "we are 30-0 in the regular season" crap doesn't hold water. With that logic you will never lose a game seeing that 31 is better than 32 and 32 is better than 33 and so on and so on. The "we are 31-0" logic didn't hold much water in 2003 either. SLC by 35 over Midland Lee.

[dragonsdaddy]

the crew will do well over 800 pu's as they do them with every score, meaning after doing 42 on sat in the third, they'll do 49 with the next score and 52 with the last, making them at 240+ already.
slc 52
mlee 14

there will be some surprising stats i predict.

[dentonRYAN]

i think yall have really high scores for slc.... i know they will win....but come on....scores in the 50s??

i hope this thread will not be deleted by the time this game ends....so we can see whos predictions were just plain stupid

[dragonsdaddy]

this will be a game that will test the mettle and desire of the mlee defense. it is likely to be in the 110+ heat indexes. the big uglies will be rushing not at all in the second half, and the secondary will be chasing fresh, talented receivers for 4 quarters as slc has 8-9 that could play for almost any other team in the state. the scoring will come in bunches in the late third and 4th. don't look for dodge to call off the dogs completely as long as riley is on the field. he will be looking to get some meaningful pt for his future qb. and it isn't like slc hasn't thrown some big numbers in the past. this will be butt ugly by the fourth.

[RAB-07]

i think yall have really high scores for slc.... i know they will win....but come on....scores in the 50s??

i hope this thread will not be deleted by the time this game ends....so we can see whos predictions were just plain stupid

reminds me of last year when everybody thought SLC would crush SV 50-10 no problem. History tends to repeat itself.

[dragonsdaddy]

reminds me of last year when everybody thought SLC would crush SV 50-10 no problem. History tends to repeat itself.
last year we won by 30+ and mlee was extremely out of shape and it was in the cool confines of the alamodome. mlee isn't supposed to be as good and it will be scary hot, and the db's will be looking for some help chasing the fresh receivers up and down the field. getting a blow during the extrapoint isn't really much solace. except for the tv situation, they might opt for a running clock late as a precaution for the heat.

[Favpack]

AFter reading Coach Q's comments - I might want to revise my prediction, but I really don't know how embarrasing Coach D would let it get. I can't see another 87-14 score - but I guess that might happen.

Kind of amazing to me that once vaunted programs can't look any more than pathetic against the State's best. Not trashing MLee, but, this one is obviously going to be ugly. If it were Permian, ugly would be a kind description.

What's happening out west past Abilene? Oil prices are up, but talent has left.

[CoppellCowboy57]

This game will be Trinity vs. Tyler Lee(first game) of the 2005 season. There may or may not be a power outage though

try the third game of the season

[toonman]

What 30-0 shows is a program at it's peak. There is no doubt that SLC is the premier program in Texas at the moment. No other school comes close to 30-0, so it is a genuine and viable measurement. Midland Lee, however, were well beaten last time they played SLC. Lee has only 3 returning on offense and 2 on defense. They were beaten in R1 of the 2004 D1 playoffs. So yes, 30-0 regular season is a good indicator.

I still say SLC 52-Lee 16. I can see Trent Hines scampering for 1 TD and Lee have a good kicker, so may get a couple of field goals.

[LPFAN]

try the third game of the season
I think what he is implying is the first game they played against each other last season. They played again later on in the playoffs if I am not mistaken.

[zippy]

Prior to the scrimmage that Lee played I would say SLC 42 Lee 30, after seeing that Lee is not going to do too hot this year I would say SLC 50+ Lee 14. If Lee could not get it going last year with a GREAT RB and QB duo, they will not get it going this year. Its sad...

[toonman]

Prior to the scrimmage that Lee played I would say SLC 42 Lee 30, after seeing that Lee is not going to do too hot this year I would say SLC 50+ Lee 14. If Lee could not get it going last year with a GREAT RB and QB duo, they will not get it going this year. Its sad...

Yes it is sad - the power base of 5A football has definitely moved east. Gone are the years of Midland Lee winning 3 in a row. Gone are the years of Permian being a perennial powerhouse. SLC - SV are the new powerhouses, with Lufkin - Judson - Katy continuing to have great programs. These are the powerful programs of Texas 5a foorball. Big city suburbs. Judson does have a history of winning 5A and can still compete, but I think SV will win that division.

[zippy]

In a matter of a few years Lee, Permian, Abilene and all these West Tx teams will take it back. It was not that long ago that Lee won those 3. Nothing has changed in Midland, except they have a LARGER population now than they did then... Sad to say, but SLC, SV, Judson, Katy, and all of these teams will began to lose games and the West will began to win games, then it will rotate around. But you are right, as of right now the East, Central, and South have taken over. Reason I say sad, is because last year Midland Lee had a great chance, but they could not get things going. Dont forget about Midland High either, they should have had a championship a couple of years ago, but either way, they had a great season. As for SV winning that district, its hard to say. If things go like I think they will this year, they will do just fine. In the past 8 years, this may be the best "talent" that SV has had at one time, lets just hope the "mental" part is there this year. If it is, I dont see them losing a game all year, if it isnt, they could lose 3-4. Judson, and another team in their district (heard churchill is going to have a team this year) are going to be tough to beat.



Yes it is sad - the power base of 5A football has definitely moved east. Gone are the years of Midland Lee winning 3 in a row. Gone are the years of Permian being a perennial powerhouse. SLC - SV are the new powerhouses, with Lufkin - Judson - Katy continuing to have great programs. These are the powerful programs of Texas 5a foorball. Big city suburbs. Judson does have a history of winning 5A and can still compete, but I think SV will win that division.

[dragonsdaddy]

but they can both win, and coju has several more titles than all the other reg 4 teams combined. let's get a ring and then start the long climb towards mt coju.

[zippy]

As for SV Im not too worried, they are still a young school. They have a long time to make it to the top. I just hope Hill stays and becomes a winning coach at the same school (SV) for a long time. I also hope to work for him someday. Just one more semester of college, and I will be in his office asking for a spot on his staff. And what better part of Texas than the hill country could you possibly live? The best land in texas, with the best possible job, what is better than that? I should bet there at the perfect time if this season goes like I think it will. Hopefully that is when SV will really start making the climb towards coju. It will be good for my career anyway. lol.


but they can both win, and coju has several more titles than all the other reg 4 teams combined. let's get a ring and then start the long climb towards mt coju.

[relraiderfan]

bhs, i sure hope there isnt a power outage considering this game is at 2 in the afternoon. it will indeed be hot. I have SLC 45- Midland Lee 14

[RAB-07]

last year we won by 30+ and mlee was extremely out of shape and it was in the cool confines of the alamodome. mlee isn't supposed to be as good and it will be scary hot, and the db's will be looking for some help chasing the fresh receivers up and down the field. getting a blow during the extrapoint isn't really much solace. except for the tv situation, they might opt for a running clock late as a precaution for the heat.

I was referring to the state championship game last year where all the hype was where SLC was going to beat SV by like 30+. It obviously didn't happen, and SLC went on to win, but there was a little bit when the whole SLC fanbase was holding their breath. I'm seeing it to be a closer game than all the hype on here, but SLC the winner.

[dragonsdaddy]

the heat is the x-factor. you can practice in it every day, but you can't and don't run relay races in it, at least not one after the other. if mlee has 8 very good db's, then they can spell each other. if not, the ones that don't get spelled will be long-tongued before it's all said and done. covering skilled wr's is hard enough when you are fresh. try it dragging your tongue behind you.

[zippy]

Was it just a little bit?



but there was a little bit when the whole SLC fanbase was holding their breath.

[Favpack]

Really not so much hype as it is observing how Lee got hammered last year, they appear not as good this year, they got whipped pretty good by Amarillo in scrimmage, their coach sounded a bit shell-shocked after the scrimmage, and SLC looks like the no. 1 team in Texas right now- that adds up to a good ol' fashion tail whuppin'.

Yes, most did predict SV to get beat badly as well - but SV was a good team that played over their head that day - - and would likely have won if their starting rb was not hurt. That was a surprise - this game would be a shocker if MLee keeps it under a 21 point spread.

[mojo61]

The #18 response by jtk1519 is a good analysis of Lee's chances on Sat. Coach Quiz is a master @ downplaying his own team's chances before a game, but this time he's not kidding. Jtk's 49-21 is a pretty good guess (could be even worse for Lee). I'll be there cheering Lee on, but the Dragons will win big (again). Forecasters here in Ab. are predicting anywhere fm. 97 to 100 deg. or more w/ heat indexes adding to that (it still will be a little humid on Sat. by W. Texas standards).

[CoppellCowboy57]

You know I forgot that the Dragons where playing out west...

They can play in August weather here in the Metroplex...We all know they can play in the winter...It'll be intersting to see them play out west where the eat index can raise to over 110 degrees...

Pickle juice anyone?

[mojoslater]

SLC will beat Midland Lee 63-14 If not more....

[drgnbkr]

You know I forgot that the Dragons where playing out west...

They can play in August weather here in the Metroplex...We all know they can play in the winter...It'll be intersting to see them play out west where the eat index can raise to over 110 degrees...

Pickle juice anyone?

"Eat index" ? Huh?

[Favpack]

I forgot about that Philly pickle juice. Maybe Doc DD can explain the finer points of pickle juice for heat. The Rebels could IV that stuff and it wouldn't help too much.

[LPFAN]

"Eat index" ? Huh?
He meant heat index.

[Dds115]

I work at a store that happens to sell pickle juice, some guy came in and got 15 bottles of it, he said his son played football for Colleyville. I can't even ponder drinking that stuff. :eek:

[drgnbkr]

Midland Lee - 42
SLC - 39

This game will be Trinity vs. Tyler Lee(first game) of the 2005 season. There may or may not be a power outage though

I think Carroll & Midland Lee could play 4 games and Lee would'nt score 42 points total......

[dragons08]

I work at a store that happens to sell pickle juice, some guy came in and got 15 bottles of it, he said his son played football for Colleyville. I can't even ponder drinking that stuff. :eek:
so they just buy it and drink it...i cant even stand pickles, let alone pickle juice, that sounds nasty, so im curious what does the pickle juice do, just hydrate you better?

[zippy]

I did research on using pickle juice for cramps in grad school, and it acually makes things worse. What I did learn that would help was to eat about 3-4 bananas and drink about a gallon of water before the game. And drink plenty of water during the game. And make sure to strech warm muscles about 30 min's before the game. This helped out the running back at the school I attended who ALWAYS cramped up in the 3rd. He was fine the entire game. We tried the pickle juice deal with him during practice and he would cramp up during warm ups.



I forgot about that Philly pickle juice. Maybe Doc DD can explain the finer points of pickle juice for heat. The Rebels could IV that stuff and it wouldn't help too much.

[Slim-Rob]

I did research on using pickle juice for cramps in grad school, and it acually makes things worse. What I did learn that would help was to eat about 3-4 bananas and drink about a gallon of water before the game. And drink plenty of water during the game. And make sure to strech warm muscles about 30 min's before the game. This helped out the running back at the school I attended who ALWAYS cramped up in the 3rd. He was fine the entire game. We tried the pickle juice deal with him during practice and he would cramp up during warm ups.

Pickle juice works when our players are cramping up. I don't know how many people you tested it on, but...

[zippy]

15 football player, 8 soccer player, 7-8 basketball, 3 softball, & 5 recreational joggers. Only 1 of the football players, the one mentioned, suffered extreme cramping in normal conditions even. All of the others did have problems at time when they are normal. All were college players, and there were 4 of us sports and conditioning graduate students doing the team study. Mythbusters needs to work on this one.

Pickle juice works when our players are cramping up. I don't know how many people you tested it on, but...