Which coach has done less with More?

[Favpack]

Vote which coach is the worst at screwing up good talent.

[Sacred Ground]

I borrowed this post from the A&M vs. Tech thread. It pretty much shows Frans lack of coaching skills, even with talented players.


Is A&M really outrecruiting Tech?

I thought the recruiting info was especially interesting in today's A&M-Tech comparison. Here it is:

State top 100 recruits
Texas A&M: 71
Texas Tech: 29

National top 100 recruits
Texas A&M: 12
Texas Tech: 0*

*Does not include guard Ofa Mohetau, a national top 100 recruit out of Euless Trinity who signed with Tech after a season at a junior college.

Those numbers make a clear case for Mike Leach and the Tech staff doing a much better coaching job than Dennis Franchione and the A&M staff.

It also illustrates the difference between the way A&M and Tech recruit. The Aggies load up early on "can't-miss" prospects who often arrive on campus with egos to match their hype. The Red Raiders rely much more on scouting seniors who aren't on the radar screens of national powers for whatever reason. Those guys go to college with a lot to prove.

Tim MacMahon-DMN

[Reaganrattler07]

I say Coker....he's had loads of talent but Miami isn't playing like they're supposed to with that talent. They're also losing games they shouldn't which I suppose ties in with them not playing like they're supposed to.

[Mad Hatter]

larry cooker he has so much talent its illegal. no excuses i think hes on the hot seat big time.

[Mean DT]

larry cooker he has so much talent its illegal. no excuses i think hes on the hot seat big time.
along with Fran.:D :D

[dragonfootballfan]

larry cooker he has so much talent its illegal. no excuses i think hes on the hot seat big time.
Larry Coker wins 9 or 10 games a year. Aggy has not been bowl eligible two out of the last three years with their talent. My vote is for Fran

[Reaganrattler07]

larry cooker he has so much talent its illegal. no excuses i think hes on the hot seat big time.

He's been on the hot seat since spring practice. He's fired after this season. He's lost too many games (according to Miami standards)

[SeguinMatadors]

Coker has done about as bad a job as one could with the U. Hppefully he leaves a new coach comes in that wants Fanuzzi... but a coach who doesn't suck.

[mtbray]

Not starting Xavier Lee = ********

[Mad Hatter]

Not starting Xavier Lee = ********

yeah i agree with u there.

[lonny23]

I voted for Coker because he has even better talent than Fran.

[dragonfootballfan]

I voted for Coker because he has even better talent than Fran.
ya but Coker atleast can manage 9 wins a year. Fran is barely over .500 in his tenure

[yankee]

I say Coker....he's had loads of talent but Miami isn't playing like they're supposed to with that talent. They're also losing games they shouldn't which I suppose ties in with them not playing like they're supposed to.
miami's got plenty of talent it's just that he's done a poor job of coaching...he has definetly not done more with less...he's done less with more...

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Miami Hurricanes, since Coker became HC:
Overall Record: 56-11
2001 - 13-0 (National Title)
2002 - 12-1 (A suspect "pass interference" call away from a 2nd NC.)
2003 - 11-2
2004 - 9-3
2005 - 9-3
2006 - 2-2 (On-going)
Has produced 17 first-round NFL draft picks in four NFL drafts, including a record 6 in 2004. Has produced a total of 42 NFL draft picks during his tenure at Miami.

Active NFL Alumni, since Coker became HC:
Ken Dorsey (San Francisco)
Clinton Portis (Washinton)
Willis McGahee (Buffalo)
Frank Gore (San Francisco)
Jarrett Payton (Tennessee)
Najeh Davenport (Pittsburgh)
Sinorice Moss (NYG)
Andre Johnson (Houston)
Roscoe Parrish (Buffalo)
Jeremy Shockey (NYG)
Kellen Winslow Jr. (Cleveland)
Martin Bibla (Atlanta)
Rashad Butler (Carolina)
Vernon Carey (Miami)
Bryant McKinnie (Minnesota)
Chris Myers (Denver)
Eric Winston (Houston)
Joaquin Gonzalez (Indianapolis)
Carlos Joseph (Jacksonville)
Brett Romberg (St. Louis)
Jamal Green (Philadelphia)
Jerome McDougle (Philadelphia)
Orien Harris (Pittsburg)
William Joseph (NYG)
Vince Wilfork (New England)
Rocky McIntosh (Washington)
Darrell McClover (NYJ)
Jonathan Vilma (NYJ)
D.J. Williams (Denver)
Leon Williams (Cleveland)
Phillip Buchanon (Houston)
Devin Hester (Chicago)
Kelly Jennings (Seattle)
Ed Reed (Baltimore)
Antrel Rolle (Arizona)
Mike Rumph (Washington)
Sean Taylor (Washington)
Kevin Everett (Buffalo)

Texas A&M Aggies, since Franchoney became HC:
Overall Record: 20-19
2003 - 4-8
2004 - 7-4
2005 - 5-6
2006 - 4-1 (On-going) (0-1 against opponents ranked righer than 45th.;))

Has produced no 1st Round Draft picks. Has produced 2 NFL Draft picks in his tenure.

Active NFL Alumni, since Dennis became HC:
Jason Carter (Minnesota) (Practice Squad)
Johnny Jolly (Green Bay)
Reggie McNeal (Cincinnati)
Don Muhlbock (Detroit)
Boone Stutz (Atlanta)


Who has done less, with more?

Neither have done what they were brought in to do. (Obviously Dennis is a joke.) Dennis was brought in to take A&M to the elite level of NC talk and projection. Simply put, he was brought to make them a NC Contender. Coker was brought in, sat down and told..."Just don't lose the games, for us!". Obviously, neither have lived up to par.

But, on the basis on the question, I'd have to say Larry Coker is the answer. He has had a program that could quite possibly be looked at as an NFL Football squad. IMO, he should of played in, at least, 4 NC's and won no less than 3 of them.

Coker has allowed the Hurricane program to deminish in pride, skill and hype. Did anyone see how many fans were in attendance, at the Houston game? I bet there was twice as many fans at the Katy vs SLC game, last season. He's been outcoached, and is now the bud of jokes, via fans, sports reporters and analysts, across the Nation.

Brother Coker, it's time to step aside. Unfortunately, a 56-11 record and a National Title - while respectable - is not nearly enough for "The U".;)

[yankee]

that's a lot of research ^ :eek:

[jtk1519]

Fran is a better recruiter than Mack III and a better game day coach that Darth Visor. Mark it down.

[slorch]

Fran is a better recruiter than Mack III and a better game day coach that Darth Visor. Mark it down.


JTK's Blood Alcohol Level when posting this .25 silly a$$ drunk!

[ThEgReAtOnE]

JTK's Blood Alcohol Level when posting this .25 silly a$$ drunk!

If you look at his normal postings, you could assume he's an alcoholic. Seek help, jtk! Seek help, brother! LOL!:D

[jtk1519]

If you look at his normal postings, you could assume he's an alcoholic. Seek help, jtk! Seek help, brother! LOL!:D


I not so think as you drunk I am.

[Primetime536]

Putting Bobby Bowden in this poll is not only unfair, it is stupid!

Are you seriously putting the all-time winningest coach in a negative poll? What a joke.

[stevefoxsc]

franny and coker deedeedee