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svhorns
08-21-2005, 07:53 PM
http://herald-zeitung.com/story.lasso?wcd=13665
SV's first test gives reason for optimism
By Will Wright
The Herald-Zeitung
Published August 21, 2005
Larry Hill has some sort of program he uses to chart Smithson Valley’s stats. He called it a self-scout, and he used it to rattle off the Rangers yardage Friday night during their scrimmage against San Antonio Southwest.
All told, Smithson Valley totaled 78 plays that produced 818 yards against the Dragons, who must’ve felt sorely outmatched.
“We moved the ball with consistency,” Hill understated. “We had one fumble, but that was well into the scrimmage. For the most part we took care of the ball.”
The other side didn’t as the Rangers defense caused six turnovers.
“I was excited about that,” Hill said. “We didn’t allow any big plays. The defense played pretty well.”
Admitting some of the stats resulted from play against second and third teams, Smithson Valley’s totals were nonetheless impressive — even more so considering where they were at this time last year.
The Rangers began 2004 with only one offensive starter returning — offensive lineman Calvin Gore — but managed to eke out some early wins and caught fire following the Judson game, the fifth game of the season. Smithson Valley was decidedly beaten in that contest, the only time it wasn’t in a game all season.
Hill has got to be licking his chops, but he moves forward with all the trepidation veteran coaches usually possess as the season is beginning. Round Rock Westwood visits Ranger Stadium Friday night, and Hill isn’t taking anything for granted.
We as sportswriters look at things as they are, and from where I’m sitting the Rangers look good to go. What they now have is what they didn’t have last year — the ability to score quickly.
“We had some explosive plays that sort of padded the stats,” Hill said, referring to a 70-yard screen pass from Bryan Hill to Cody Beyer, one of three TD passes by the junior, who added another running in his debut under center. Hill finished the first controlled series 5 of 6 for 110 yards.
“Obviously, Southwest isn’t going to have the kind of defense we’ll see against Westwood and some others we’ll see down the line, so I’m not going to get too excited about statistics from a scrimmage.”
Tight end Kyle Henry caught one score and running back Blake Schrock caught for another. Schrock and Chris Brehm caught several passes out of the backfield, which sprang another runner, sophomore Trent Rios, for big gains. The offensive line, with Michael Stevick, Bryce Fowler and newly converted center Connor Smith, shined. Cody McKinney ran with power.
It was more of the same on defense. Andrew Sendejo had two interceptions; Matt Pfister, Chris Stehle and Ryan Moczygemba controlled on the line, Kendal Volz and Mykel Kovar racked at linebacker and Aaron Hernandez and Reagan Moczygemba didn’t allow big plays in the secondary.
Hill and I reminisced about last year, when the Rangers managed 217 yards and scored 10 points, relying instead on the defense to hold the Warriors to 149 yards and without points for the season’s first win. The next week, in a 23-17 loss to Pflugerville, the Rangers totaled 307 yards and the following week against Temple finished with 292 yards.
In those games — and for most of last season — the Rangers relied on defense to set up the offense. With the offense and defense both on all cylinders, one would think anything’s possible now.
Hill isn’t going to agree, at least not until the season’s over. At present he’s only remembering how hard a time his team had against Westwood’s defensive backs, and whether to expect the same on Friday.
“We have six days to find out where we’re at,” he said. “They like to play a lot of man coverage and we didn’t have it easy against them last year. But from what our coaches saw, they played Brenham even during their scrimmage, and Brenham has a good football team.”
At any rate, Smithson Valley got back into the swing of things. After 16 games last season, Hill found it refreshing to get into the usual routine.
“Because the UIL let us scrimmage on Friday, we were able to get into game mode. We treated it like a game. Today (Saturday) we had the kids do training and get in some treatment and watch some film like we usually do during the season.
“When you can go through that, doing what you usually do getting ready during the week, the game sort of takes care of itself.”
I think the Rangers are ready for the season. I only hope the Warriors are, too.
dragonsdaddy
08-21-2005, 08:27 PM
practicing beating up dragons in the scrimmage i see. sounds like a healthy start to me.
dragons08
08-21-2005, 08:33 PM
practicing beating up dragons in the scrimmage i see. sounds like a healthy start to me.
to bad it wont be a healthy finish for sv..
Reaganrattler07
08-21-2005, 08:38 PM
I really don't see how you all are proud of beating up on a team....that's like going and beating up some kid just to show you can.
Why didn't SV go out and find someone tough to play against?
dragons08
08-21-2005, 08:39 PM
I really don't see how you all are proud of beating up on a team....that's like going and beating up some kid just to show you can.
Why didn't SV go out and find someone tough to play against?
its like some macho 20 year old beating up some 80 year old lady who cant walk..
RedRage00
08-21-2005, 08:43 PM
I really don't see how you all are proud of beating up on a team....that's like going and beating up some kid just to show you can.
Why didn't SV go out and find someone tough to play against?
OUCH for Southwest....why even show up?
I don't understand why SV would schedule a scrimmage against SW??? I don't see how that would improve the team?
It would have been better to scrimmage the SV JV lol
RR
dragons08
08-21-2005, 08:45 PM
OUCH for Southwest....why even show up?
I don't understand why SV would schedule a scrimmage against SW??? I don't see how that would improve the team?
It would have been better to scrimmage the SV JV lol
RR
hahaha, maybe to boost sv's confidence? that they massivly beat a team named the dragons like dd said, i guess they had to find a dragons they could beat..
LPFAN
08-21-2005, 08:53 PM
to bad it wont be a healthy finish for sv..
Very classy sportsmanship there. :confused: I would think you would have some better class then that seeing how you guys are the Defending State Champs and Mythical National Champs. You guys have one of the best teams that Lufkin has been privileged to play but that is a tacky comment coming from a SLC fan.
Reaganrattler07
08-21-2005, 08:56 PM
OUCH for Southwest....why even show up?
I don't understand why SV would schedule a scrimmage against SW??? I don't see how that would improve the team?
It would have been better to scrimmage the SV JV lol
RR
They just wanted to show that they're ****** and can just beat "anyone"....I really do think it's pathetic that they scheduled on against Southwest.
And like dragons08 said, it's like some 20 year old muscle builder who goes and beats up on some 80 year old lady that can't walk...
dragons08
08-21-2005, 08:58 PM
Very classy sportsmanship there. :confused: I would think you would have some better class then that seeing how you guys are the Defending State Champs and Mythical National Champs. You guys have one of the best teams that Lufkin has been privileged to play but that is a tacky comment coming from a SLC fan.
im sorry, its just that SVChamps dude pissed me off like no other, i couldnt hold it back..
LPFAN
08-21-2005, 09:05 PM
I really don't see how you all are proud of beating up on a team....that's like going and beating up some kid just to show you can.
Why didn't SV go out and find someone tough to play against?
If your regular season schedule has you playing some weak teams and you go out and beat them 49-7 will your fans, players and newspapers avoid talking about the win? Will they not talk about stats at all. Will your team not be proud of all the passing, rushing, and receiving yardage they were able to gain in a game against a weak team. Will they ignore how well the defense played because it was against a weaker team. If your fans, players and newspapers talk about the game in any way will you see it as being proud of beating up on a weak team, or will you see it as going and beating up some kid just to show you can? I doubt it. Every team is always going to talk about the positives and negatives of a scrimmage or real game no matter how tough or weak the opposing team is. That is just a fact! That includes your team too.
wide-e-wide
08-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Mythical National Champions...that always makes me laugh.
How can a team take pride in a title that includes the word Myth.
From this day forth...I am no longer wide-e-wide....I am the Mythical
Baddest Mofo to ever breathe air. That MBMEBA for short.
dragons08
08-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Mythical National Champions...that always makes me laugh.
How can a team take pride in a title that includes the word Myth.
From this day forth...I am no longer wide-e-wide....I am the Mythical
Baddest Mofo to ever breathe air. That MBMEBA for short.
well this day in age, they have to put mythical, to be politcaly correct maybe? but heck i'll call you baddest mofo ever to breathe air, without the mythical part!
Reaganrattler07
08-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Yeah, it's always good to have a blow out I admit that but when you schedule a game to practice....why pick a team that is not even half as good as you? Your supposed to practice against a team that you can find out what is wrong with your team....not one you just can stomp all over. How are you gonna find out if your team needs to fix something if you if play a team that can't stop you? Playing Southwest did nothing to prepare them for their district. All it showed was that SV could beat a weak team.
wide-e-wide
08-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Everybody does it. Why do you think UT plays North Tx...or Louisiana Lafayette?...or why do D1 teams play D2 teams period. It's just the way it is.
Just once I would like to see the small school win though.
Reaganrattler07
08-21-2005, 09:18 PM
It'd shove their arrogance right down their throat....
jrdaniel
08-21-2005, 10:05 PM
Dang guys, lay off on SV. Most teams schedule opponents they won't play against during the season, and there are advantages to playing weaker teams in the preseason. I think Judson scrimmaged Southwest in '92 or '93, so there you go again - SV trying to copy Judson. :D
Reaganrattler07
08-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Haha, and your telling us to lay off of SV!
BIGrNtx12
08-21-2005, 10:28 PM
It is not pathetic for SV to scrimage Southwest. Last year it was a good scrimage. How was Sv suppose to know that Southwest was so bad. They have been scrimaging eachother for like 8 yrs straight. Every year it has been a good game... this time either Sv was that much better or southwest was that much worse. But I think ya'll know as well as I do Coach Hill would not humiliate someone on purpose
XSVRanger
08-21-2005, 11:33 PM
It is not pathetic for SV to scrimage Southwest. Last year it was a good scrimage. How was Sv suppose to know that Southwest was so bad. They have been scrimaging eachother for like 8 yrs straight. Every year it has been a good game... this time either Sv was that much better or southwest was that much worse. But I think ya'll know as well as I do Coach Hill would not humiliate someone on purpose
Exactly! You must admit there won't be too many cakewalks in the regular season schedule.
Mad Hatter
08-22-2005, 01:17 AM
if judson had scrimaged someone like poth or randolph you guys would of had a fit.
Sv used to scrimmage Mac, but now they are in their district. Yall do need to lay off a bit. Not all SV fans are cocky. The racist thing is a bunch of Bs too. Few bad apples, yes. Who don't have them. Let the kids just play and stop demeaning the school. They are a class program who does their talking on the field.
gutbuster
08-22-2005, 10:39 AM
Look for an interesting matchup week 1 against Pflugerville. This should be a very good game.
zippy
08-23-2005, 01:51 AM
Wow, SLC fans, where is the class? Why such rude comments about my boys at SV? Anyway, SV has played this team for a while now, and in the past it has been a good team to play pre-season. Some teams (SLC) face teams that they could beat 80-0 in district. That is just the way it is sometimes, play whoever you can, or whoever you have to play. I am sure SV wishes they had faced someone better, but you cant always have things go your way. They have to play teams that are available. One thing you have to keep in mind (if you were at the scrimmage) is SV has got it going on this year. The main issue was QB, but not anymore. Bryan is going to do just fine (thank god). As for the backs, they are better than last year, and the defense, believe it or not, is a lot better than last year. Pawelek, as good as he was, has been replaced just fine. This was another worry. Not anymore. All I have to say is this may just be SV's year. They might lose the first game of the playoffs, or they might just take it all this year. At least this year they have the talent to go along with the drive. If they put last years mental aspect with this years physical aspect, they have a good chance at a title. Oh yea, keep an eye on this Rios Kid. His dad was a GREAT back in his day, and he seems to be just as good. As fast as Haney was, but bigger, and a better runner up the middle. He should get some playing time if SV starts blowing anyone out this year.
zippy
08-23-2005, 01:52 AM
This will be SV's first true test, PVille always has a good, solid team.
Look for an interesting matchup week 1 against Pflugerville. This should be a very good game.
zippy
08-23-2005, 02:00 AM
Come on dragons08, Not 5 mins after reading this, I see this on another post about your dragons.. Also good for SV to beat up on people early I guess. Hope you guys make it back to state, should be a better game this year if SV makes it too. I think both teams are going to have a lot of resistance this year, SLC will get it in late playoffs, and SV will get it in the regular season and late playoffs. I hope they can manage another run..
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i didnt get to catch the game, but from what i heard, it sounds great, any time you beat down a team its a great confidence booster
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its like some macho 20 year old beating up some 80 year old lady who cant walk..
Reaganrattler07
08-23-2005, 10:17 AM
Come on dragons08, Not 5 mins after reading this, I see this on another post about your dragons.. Also good for SV to beat up on people early I guess. Hope you guys make it back to state, should be a better game this year if SV makes it too. I think both teams are going to have a lot of resistance this year, SLC will get it in late playoffs, and SV will get it in the regular season and late playoffs. I hope they can manage another run..
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i didnt get to catch the game, but from what i heard, it sounds great, any time you beat down a team its a great confidence booster
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That's practically how the SV scrimmage went.
And having the QB and Head Coach related almost never works out....it'll be interesting to see how they go further into the season.
svhorns
08-23-2005, 01:37 PM
And having the QB and Head Coach related almost never works out A qb is a qb a coach is a coach its nothing different. Alan Hill, his older son took them to the 2nd round of the playoffs in 03-04 but lost to a better clemens team i believe the Hill, Hill combo beat reagan pretty handily that year. Thats a dumb comment on ur part. You have a qb and a coach every team does its nothing different.
dragons08
08-23-2005, 01:40 PM
That's practically how the SV scrimmage went.
And having the QB and Head Coach related almost never works out....it'll be interesting to see how they go further into the season.
i hope your wrong there man, the dodge, dodge, combo goes into effect next year
badger95
08-23-2005, 02:18 PM
i hope your wrong there man, the dodge, dodge, combo goes into effect next year
Agreed. When Westlake still had Coach Schroeder, his son's Jr. and Sr. years, they went all the way to the state finals. His Jr. year he was a WR, after breaking his collarbone play QB in the first game, and then played QB as a Sr., outdueling Vince Young's Madison team in the Semi-Finals.
Now he's the fastest kid on A&M's squad.
jrdaniel
08-23-2005, 03:07 PM
On the contrary, I can't think of a Coach-QB relationship situation that didn't have some success. Not sure how Detmer did, can't remember back that far, Rutledge got a title with his boy in '93 I think. Badger already mentioned the Westlake duo. Drew Tate didn't fare well as far as postseason success is concerned, but that is more a product of the system at Baytown Lee as Tate still put up some nice numbers and is at Iowa now.
Do you have any examples of those that went wrong?
dragonsdaddy
08-23-2005, 03:26 PM
other good relationships include ennis' harrells, the real mccoy's at rotan, the bomars at gp, chase wasson, the southalls at bwood, greg-port's marty akins. kids raised in a coaching environment are up to speed with the nuances that make a good qb.
zippy
08-23-2005, 06:30 PM
QB and head coach did fine a few years ago at SV. Bryans older brother, Alan. SLC will be facing the same thing soon from what I hear.
That's practically how the SV scrimmage went.
And having the QB and Head Coach related almost never works out....it'll be interesting to see how they go further into the season.
zippy
08-23-2005, 06:32 PM
Great point, forgot about them. Harrell and son did fairly well I would say. How many titles did they get?
other good relationships include ennis' harrells, the real mccoy's at rotan, the bomars at gp, chase wasson, the southalls at bwood, greg-port's marty akins. kids raised in a coaching environment are up to speed with the nuances that make a good qb.
dragons08
08-23-2005, 06:33 PM
QB and head coach did fine a few years ago at SV. Bryans older brother, Alan. SLC will be facing the same thing soon from what I hear.
yep Riley dodge is expected to take over the QB job next year, with coach dodge as coach, riley will be a junior next year when he starts
Reaganrattler07
08-23-2005, 06:35 PM
A qb is a qb a coach is a coach its nothing different. Alan Hill, his older son took them to the 2nd round of the playoffs in 03-04 but lost to a better clemens team i believe the Hill, Hill combo beat reagan pretty handily that year. Thats a dumb comment on ur part. You have a qb and a coach every team does its nothing different.
Hahahahahaha, you all really just love bringing up Reagan, don't you? Hmm...we can't get anything else on him, so we'll insult his school, the same one that beats us in practically everything else...
Of course every team has a qb and coach, most teams don't have a relation between the two. And if you do look back, quite a few of them never did work out that well.
SVite
08-23-2005, 06:38 PM
Dang guys, lay off on SV. Most teams schedule opponents they won't play against during the season, and there are advantages to playing weaker teams in the preseason. I think Judson scrimmaged Southwest in '92 or '93, so there you go again - SV trying to copy Judson. :D
We scrimmaged SW last year and you guys didnt seem to care.I really dont think it would have mattered who we would have played.This team is gonna blow doors,just like when SW was in our district 3 years ago,and by the way, they made the play-offs.This was scheduled 2 years ago.Last year was a major rebuilding.This year it`s a reloading.
zippy
08-23-2005, 06:43 PM
I dont think that is the reason the guy is bashing you. Can you name a QB/Coach that didnt work out? All I have seen are ones that have, including SV when Alan was there. As a coach/intern, I can tell you that a coach and QB that do not have a realationship between the two DO NOT work out. You need a relationship with the entire team (even kickers) but you have to have on with your leader (QB).
Hahahahahaha, you all really just love bringing up Reagan, don't you? Hmm...we can't get anything else on him, so we'll insult his school, the same one that beats us in practically everything else...
Of course every team has a qb and coach, most teams don't have a relation between the two. And if you do look back, quite a few of them never did work out that well.
Reaganrattler07
08-23-2005, 06:48 PM
I dont think that is the reason the guy is bashing you. Can you name a QB/Coach that didnt work out? All I have seen are ones that have, including SV when Alan was there. As a coach/intern, I can tell you that a coach and QB that do not have a realationship between the two DO NOT work out. You need a relationship with the entire team (even kickers) but you have to have on with your leader (QB).
ALthough the QB will never admit it, it's a lot more stress on him than the coach....and it's not so much the relationship doesn't work out.
And to answer your question as to name the father-son qb/coach pairs, I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there are some that have never really worked out.
zippy
08-23-2005, 06:57 PM
Coach Hill is a madman when it comes to football and his kids, wife, family, friends all know that, and expect that, and live with it. If Bryan was not up to that he would not play football, and Hill would not be upset with him. Bryan knows that he will hear nothing but football related talk from now until December. He knows that he will be watching film after school. He knows that at dinner Dad will be using his peas as players at the dinner table. I think that is why he will not have a problem with the relationship. He knows what to expect. As for thinking of ones that do not work off the top of your head, its hard.. However thinking of ones that DID work off the top of your head is easy. Maybe name some before saying it doesnt work out. Bryan will also let his dad know if he is stressed. There is another QB (Beyer) that will do just as good as Bryan. May not have the arm Hill has, but his mobility makes up for it. Anyway, when you can think of some let us know..
ALthough the QB will never admit it, it's a lot more stress on him than the coach....and it's not so much the relationship doesn't work out.
And to answer your question as to name the father-son qb/coach pairs, I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there are some that have never really worked out.
Reaganrattler07
08-23-2005, 07:02 PM
Isn't Beyer your best reciever?
Haha, and are YOU Coach Hill's son? Haha, just playin'...don't answer that.
But of course it's easy to name successes over failures, but I know where I can find some...just not right now at the moment as I'm SUPPOSED to be doing homework...yes, I'll get to that right after this post.
But anyways, It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, best of luck.
zippy
08-23-2005, 07:11 PM
Yea, he is, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices... No I am not Bryan, lol. It will be interesting, but I can assure you that if there are problems it will not be QB/Coach relationship at SV anyway. Oh yea, if Beyer had to move, Rios will be a fine reciever..
Isn't Beyer your best reciever?
Haha, and are YOU Coach Hill's son? Haha, just playin'...don't answer that.
But of course it's easy to name successes over failures, but I know where I can find some...just not right now at the moment as I'm SUPPOSED to be doing homework...yes, I'll get to that right after this post.
But anyways, It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, best of luck.
Reaganrattler07
08-23-2005, 07:14 PM
Yea, he is, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices... No I am not Bryan, lol. It will be interesting, but I can assure you that if there are problems it will not be QB/Coach relationship at SV anyway. Oh yea, if Beyer had to move, Rios will be a fine reciever..
But could he measure up to Beyer? :cool:
Over at Reagan, we moved our best reciever to qb...funny how recievers turn out to be qbs...
RIGHT!...homework, got it.
zippy
08-23-2005, 07:23 PM
With time he could. He is one of those young kids that will do well at either position, a lot like Clint Haney who tore it up as RB, but played in the army bowl as WR. He will not be as good as Beyer, but he will do fine. However Hill is going to do just fine I think, so we dont need to discuss it. As for QB and WR's, they know what each one needs to be a sucess. As long as the WR's have an arm, they can play the position farily well. Now get your freaking homework done kid!!
But could he measure up to Beyer? :cool:
Over at Reagan, we moved our best reciever to qb...funny how recievers turn out to be qbs...
RIGHT!...homework, got it.
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