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BleedBurntOrange
09-25-2006, 02:41 PM
I know this thread is out of whack, because it doesn't involve SLC or 26-5A, :)
but........
25-5A should be an interesting race.

Westlake is the clear cut choice, but losing Nader will hurt them. They are the team to beat, but it would not shock me to see them drop a game. Austin High, Seguin, or San Marcos I think could shock the Chaps.

Austin High may be the dark horse. Alot was expected form them, but injuries have held them back a little bit. It will be interesting to see if the off-week got them healthy. Out of the blocks, going against the Mighty Chaps could tell alot.

Seguin will be in the mix. Have only seen a little of them, but they will defintiley have a say on the pecking order for the playoffs.

San Marcos will also be good. They may be limited offensively, though, and if they get behind, they will have trouble. If they run into a stout defense that can stop the run, they may be in trouble.

Bowie has a great RB. but they are running a new offense, and a new defense, and so far seemed to have trouble picking it up. They will be in the mix, and probalby upset one of the big 4 at some point, but I don't see them making the playoffs.

Bastrop has 2 outstanding RBs. But they are not real good on defense, and they have no passing game. Same as Bowie, they may determine who gets in, but I don't think they will be going.

Akins has looked better than most people thought, but havn't played anyone real good yet. I don't see them competing real well in this district.

Anderson puts all their best players on offense, so they have to outscore people just to have a chance. I don't think they can do that. I see them fighting with Akins to see who is 7th. although, they could certainly beat someone on a given night.

I see it as Westlake, Austin High, Seguin, and San Marcos.......in some order.

That would put Westlake and Seguin going as the big school, and Austin and San Marcos in small school.

SeguinMatadors
09-25-2006, 03:07 PM
I know this thread is out of whack, because it doesn't involve SLC or 26-5A, :)
but........
25-5A should be an interesting race.

Westlake is the clear cut choice, but losing Nader will hurt them. They are the team to beat, but it would not shock me to see them drop a game. Austin High, Seguin, or San Marcos I think could shock the Chaps.

Austin High may be the dark horse. Alot was expected form them, but injuries have held them back a little bit. It will be interesting to see if the off-week got them healthy. Out of the blocks, going against the Mighty Chaps could tell alot.

Seguin will be in the mix. Have only seen a little of them, but they will defintiley have a say on the pecking order for the playoffs.

San Marcos will also be good. They may be limited offensively, though, and if they get behind, they will have trouble. If they run into a stout defense that can stop the run, they may be in trouble.

Bowie has a great RB. but they are running a new offense, and a new defense, and so far seemed to have trouble picking it up. They will be in the mix, and probalby upset one of the big 4 at some point, but I don't see them making the playoffs.

Bastrop has 2 outstanding RBs. But they are not real good on defense, and they have no passing game. Same as Bowie, they may determine who gets in, but I don't think they will be going.

Akins has looked better than most people thought, but havn't played anyone real good yet. I don't see them competing real well in this district.

Anderson puts all their best players on offense, so they have to outscore people just to have a chance. I don't think they can do that. I see them fighting with Akins to see who is 7th. although, they could certainly beat someone on a given night.

I see it as Westlake, Austin High, Seguin, and San Marcos.......in some order.

That would put Westlake and Seguin going as the big school, and Austin and San Marcos in small school.


Yay. My kind of thread.

First off, Westlake certianly is and should be considered the favorite. Very balenced offensive attack. Might be less talented on defense, but still pretty good. The loss of Matt Nadar will hurt their O-line some... but Westlake breeds 6'3 270 pounders. They will still be good on the O line. It is just a matter of how his loss and that game will affect them mentally.

Seguin is really talented. The defense will be there... the middle of the Dline is a little off right now for a couple of reasons, but the defense is going to be there. The offense has the potential to be very good, IMO. Coach just has to let the players play. We are very talented at the skill posistions.... it is just a matter of our coaches trusting our QB, who I think is a pretty good player. If the coaches can figure out how to consistently attack a defense properly then look out.

I think Austin High is a good team... but at this point I am not "buying" them being better than Seguin. Austin High's 1-2 a win against McCallum who hasn't beaten a good or decent team yet. I don't doubt that Austin High is good... I just don't think they are better than Seguin at this point.

San Marcos is a scary game for everyone. They can beat just about anyone one any given night.... because if they grab a lead the clock can pretty much disapear on you really quick.The key against them is to grab a lead. A San Marcos guy told me that they don't have the standout runningback they are acustomed to having and that may cause problems. Also told me that they are smaller than usual on defense... which could also be a problem. Still, they seem to be able to plug people into that confusing offense and pick up where they left off.....that game is the scary game for me as a Matador fan.

Bowie always has athletes and if they get on the right page they could make some noise. Taking them lightly could really throw the district out of wack.

Bastrop has Seguin at home this week. Im a little worried about it because Seguin is coming off of a bye going into district and it is a good travel... I will probably go to that game and have a better grasp for where they stand in the thick of things.

Akins and Anderson should be wins for the good teams in our district if you come in with your head on straight.

Right now I see the district like this.... Westlake, Seguin, Austin H, San Marcos, Bastrop, Bowie, Akins, Anderson.

SeguinMatadors
09-25-2006, 08:29 PM
On another note, why can't we have 4985435345 255a posters like there are 26ers.

Texas Born,Chaparral Bred
09-25-2006, 09:48 PM
Westlake is the clear cut choice, but losing Nader will hurt them. They are the team to beat, but it would not shock me to see them drop a game. Austin High, Seguin, or San Marcos I think could shock the Chaps.



First off, I feel obligated to respond to this. Westlake has lost only 2 district games in the last 15 years. Both of those coming in the fluke 2003 season when Coach Schroeder left on the first day of two a days leaving a huge coaching mess to deal with. Any sort of district loss by the Chaps should definitely come as a shock. As for Nader being gone, yes it will be a setback. It's impossible to replace a (would have been) First Team All State lineman. What I hope will happen is that Westlake will be forced to start to pass more which I beleive will actually benefit them. Secondly, Seguin is by far the second best team in 25-5A. The rest of the district has looked absolutely horrible this year. Austin High has some talent but I don't think it will get them any better than 3rd. I thought Bastrop could possibly sneak in at 4th until last week's blowout loss to Hays. Akins may be 2-1 but they won't finish better than 7th in all likelyhood. Anderson will probably be at the bottom with Akins. That leaves Bowie, San Marcos, and Bastrop in the middle. So far none of these teams has been very impressive, but if I was gonna pick one that would finish 4th I would say San Marcos.

SeguinMatadors
09-25-2006, 10:11 PM
First off, I feel obligated to respond to this. Westlake has lost only 2 district games in the last 15 years. Both of those coming in the fluke 2003 season when Coach Schroeder left on the first day of two a days leaving a huge coaching mess to deal with. Any sort of district loss by the Chaps should definitely come as a shock. As for Nader being gone, yes it will be a setback. It's impossible to replace a (would have been) First Team All State lineman. What I hope will happen is that Westlake will be forced to start to pass more which I beleive will actually benefit them. Secondly, Seguin is by far the second best team in 25-5A. The rest of the district has looked absolutely horrible this year. Austin High has some talent but I don't think it will get them any better than 3rd. I thought Bastrop could possibly sneak in at 4th until last week's blowout loss to Hays. Akins may be 2-1 but they won't finish better than 7th in all likelyhood. Anderson will probably be at the bottom with Akins. That leaves Bowie, San Marcos, and Bastrop in the middle. So far none of these teams has been very impressive, but if I was gonna pick one that would finish 4th I would say San Marcos.

Thanks, although I think we are kind of second best by default at this point. I really would like to see the rest of the district step up and become the teams they could be. I agree with most of your assesment.

BleedBurntOrange
09-26-2006, 08:54 AM
Just out of curiosity, Chapbred, how many teams from the district (besides Westlake) have you seen play this year?

You made the comment, (and it was kind of seconded by the Matador) that Seguin is the second best team, and the rest of the district is horrible. I was just wondering when exactly you have seen these horrible teams play?

I have no problem with you spouting off the Westlake stats of dominance (they are all true, and very well-deserved), but you might want to wait until after you beat Austin High, and San Marcos, and all the others (or at least see them play once) before you pop off and say they are horrible.

leanderdad
09-26-2006, 09:09 AM
i went and saw Bowie vs. CP Vista Ridge Friday. Bowie is running the spread offense this year. is this the 1st year they have run it? If it is they will probably get better as they learn it. Went out and saw their FR. on Thursday. They have some athletes on that team.(Bowie). One kid was 6'4" and about 220. WR was 6'3 and 190. Future looks bright for Bowie.

SeguinMatadors
09-26-2006, 12:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, Chapbred, how many teams from the district (besides Westlake) have you seen play this year?

You made the comment, (and it was kind of seconded by the Matador) that Seguin is the second best team, and the rest of the district is horrible. I was just wondering when exactly you have seen these horrible teams play?

I have no problem with you spouting off the Westlake stats of dominance (they are all true, and very well-deserved), but you might want to wait until after you beat Austin High, and San Marcos, and all the others (or at least see them play once) before you pop off and say they are horrible.

I acknowledged that SM has the possibility to beat some teams and that Austin High still has the "potential" to make some noise. But...Austin High has been disapointing to start the season and I do think Seguin is the second best team in the district.

Texas Born,Chaparral Bred
09-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Just out of curiosity, Chapbred, how many teams from the district (besides Westlake) have you seen play this year?

You made the comment, (and it was kind of seconded by the Matador) that Seguin is the second best team, and the rest of the district is horrible. I was just wondering when exactly you have seen these horrible teams play?

I have no problem with you spouting off the Westlake stats of dominance (they are all true, and very well-deserved), but you might want to wait until after you beat Austin High, and San Marcos, and all the others (or at least see them play once) before you pop off and say they are horrible.

I went to see Bastrop at Hays this past week during our bye week. Westlake scrimmaged Hays and, even though it was just a scrimmage, Hays looked a lot worse than they were last season. I went to this game expecting Bastrop to win, especially considering the fact that Bastrop took last years team into Triple OT. What I saw was Hays dominate the entire game on both sides.

Thats the only team I've seen first hand this season, but its not too terribly difficult to gauge a team's quality by looking at their results from previous games.

Austin High: Losses to Westwood and Stony Point, only win against 4A McCallum

Akins: Loss to 4A Dripping Springs?

Anderson: 40 Point loss to 4A McCallum?!! and loss to Vista Ridge which is playing varsity football for the first time ever this year.

Bowie: Losses to Round Rock and McNeil

Bastrop: Losses to Round Rock and 4A Hays

San Marcos: 1 point win against 4A Kerville Tivy; Losses to 4A New Braunfalls Canyon and Pflugerville

Seguin: Respectable loss to (4-0) SA Madison, and wins over NB and Beaumont Ozen

DragonBand06
09-26-2006, 10:08 PM
SLC! 26-5A!
Don't forget that...

Sorry just had to get that in there...:D

LeanderLions3033
09-26-2006, 11:13 PM
I see it as Westlake, Seguin, and San Marcos (i only say San Marcos because i haven't seen them play and they usually tend to throw out a respectable football team since their seems to be a lack of that in 25-5a). The rest of the district really doesnt matter, nor will they be a factor. This was supposed to be the year that Austin High was supposed to make some noise, and they came out of the gates lossing to usual cellar 14-5a teams Westwood and Stony Point. Now i'll give them a little credit, Westwood seems to be playing very good football this year, and Stony Point's Cameron Bell is a monster but come on. And if Bastrop actually got dominated on both sides of the ball by Hays (which i saw play Cedar Park, and they looked horrible to say the least), then thats another program that usually has a respectable team from this district that won't this year.

Westlake
Seguin
San Marcos
Austin High

Unless their's just something i don't know about, i dont think any other team really has a chance.

BleedBurntOrange
09-27-2006, 01:40 PM
I was at the Hays/Bastrop game, and you must have seen a different game than I did.

Hays didn't dominate that game at all. In fact, the first half was exactly opposite of that. Bastrop DOMINATED it. Ask anyone from Hays and they will tell you the same thing. Bastrop couldn't score from the one inch line, and settled for a FG, and missed a FG on another drive, and Hays only had 2 first downs the whole half. Bastrop should have been killing Hays on the scoreboard. I guarantee you that Bastrop had 150-180 yards at half time, and Hays had about 80. Hays got loose on a reverse, and an option, but the first half was completely dominated by Bastrop. Now the second half, I will agree with you, Hays pushed them around, and Bastrop looked like they quit.

Also, I will agree, that Hays is nothing like they have been the last few years.

BleedBurntOrange
09-27-2006, 02:06 PM
All I am saying, is that let's just wait a while before we bury this district.

Some teams will be a lot better 7 weeks from now, than they were the last 3 weeks.

Or course, no one in 25-5a could possibly compare to anyone in 26-5a:rolleyes:

or Southlake Carroll;)

but let's at least wait a few weeks and see how it shakes out, before we declare that everyone is horrible.