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KT2000
08-19-2005, 10:17 PM
Post your scrimmage reports in this thread.

I just got back from Katy v. Kempner scrimmage. It was moved from Saturday to Friday, and also changed venues from Rhodes in Katy to Kempner High's stadium. Katy looks to have a promising group for this season. The skill talent on offense is good enough that you can't key in on one or two guys, and shut down the whole operation. This is the most impressive team speed I've seen on a Katy team in five years. We'll see what they build themselves into over the course of a season, but they look ready to get things started.

odessapermian.com
08-19-2005, 10:29 PM
Watched Odessa High vs Lubbock Monterey.

Varsity- Monterey clearly won this battle. Scored 4 TDs to 1 for Odessa. Monty defense also made two picks that would have been scores (whistled dead by refs). Monty seems to have more speed than usual.

JV- Pretty even. Neither scored while I was there. We got there after it had started, so there may have been scoring that we missed. I'd say Monty's D was slightly tougher than Odessa's. By the body language displayed after the scrimmage, you'd guess Monty won that battle.

Sophs- Odessa won this battle hands down. Scored 3 or 4 TDs real quick towards the end of the deal.


I'm interested to hear some reports from a Lee fan who watched their scrimmage vs Amarillo. A Lee fan I know called and said Amarillo's varsity handed it to the Rebels.

odessapermian.com
08-19-2005, 10:32 PM
Read on another board- Wichita Falls (4A) 6 scores, Abilene Cooper 1. Said Chris Hall (Cooper QB) did not play.

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 10:35 PM
I saw the SA Reagan- SA Clark scrimmage. Clark's got a nice running back. And Reagan's defense practicly sucks...offense is pretty good. But the way Clark was playing they're probably gonna be a team to be reckoned with once again.

wide-e-wide
08-19-2005, 10:38 PM
Asking for scrimmage reports is like asking your homeboy what him and that chick did on the couch?.....(bleep) that ...what happened when you went to the bedroom?

KT2000
08-19-2005, 10:42 PM
Asking for scrimmage reports is like asking your homeboy what him and that chick did on the couch?.....(bleep) that ...what happened when you went to the bedroom?

Your analogies are getting crazier by the minute. The Whitney/Bobby thing you pulled up earlier was unbelievable. Never thought anyone could integrate that into a football discussion. Only you wide, only you. By the way, this is a PG rated establishment but that doesn't mean much these days with Cialis and Levitra commerials on Cartoon Network now.

Gridiron Gopher
08-19-2005, 10:42 PM
MacArthur/Seguin

Canceled due to lighting up in Seguin. They'll go at it again Sat morning at 9:00am. I'll give you an update when I get back.

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 10:46 PM
Your analogies are getting crazier by the minute. The Whitney/Bobby thing you pulled up earlier was unbelievable. Never thought anyone could integrate that into a football discussion. Only you wide, only you. By the way, this is a PG rated establishment but that doesn't mean much these days with Cialis and Levitra commerials on Cartoon Network now.

When I was young (ten years ago about) I don't remember them using some of the same language as they do on "family shows" now.

They advertise a lot of things on "family channels"....course i guess lil kids don't know what they are as they use big words and such.

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 10:47 PM
MacArthur/Seguin

Canceled due to lighting up in Seguin. They'll go at it again Sat morning at 9:00am. I'll give you an update when I get back.

They pulled the plug on ours about an hour or so into it because of the storms....

lonny23
08-19-2005, 10:49 PM
I saw the SA Reagan- SA Clark scrimmage. Clark's got a nice running back. And Reagan's defense practicly sucks...offense is pretty good. But the way Clark was playing they're probably gonna be a team to be reckoned with once again.
What did they do, sneak JW back in uniform for another year? :p

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 10:50 PM
Haha, no.....this guy can be called "The Diesel"....and this is commin' from a Redskins fan.....

wide-e-wide
08-19-2005, 11:03 PM
Hey KT...I always say (bleep) I am reformed now...I know better.
I am the new Wideman...the old Wideman would cuss all 'yall out....
I keep it PG...always. What's up on some Hall of Fame love?
Dude I have like 3,000 posts combined on this board and the old board....what's up?
Am I the Pete Rose of 5atexasfootball.com?

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 11:06 PM
Ah wide, everytime i think of this board you are the first to come to my mind....still not sure if that's good or not. But this board would be very very very different without you.

wide-e-wide
08-19-2005, 11:08 PM
See KT even my enemies love me....
I been pimpin' since pimpin' been pimpin'
and mack'n since mack'n been mack'n
what's the deal bra?
They all love me......right fellas?

Reaganrattler07
08-19-2005, 11:10 PM
Haha, i wouldn't call you my 'enemy'...yet, haha, just playing.

We just happened to be on the opposite sides of like....everything.

jtk1519
08-19-2005, 11:16 PM
Wichita Falls needs to have the UIL on their butts NOW. It clearly looked like Ted Ginn Jr. was lined up in their backfield. That or we just looked really bad. :mad:

Mad Hatter
08-19-2005, 11:16 PM
mac scrims seguin in the morning instead....good maybe ill go to it then :)

supercentex
08-19-2005, 11:16 PM
JOHN TYLER - NAAMAN FOREST SCRIMMAGE



I just got a call from a couple of people at the JT - Naaman Forest scrimmage in Garland. And although details are sketchy it appears as if during the #1 versus #1 real-time scrimmage JT outscored Naaman Forest 5-1. According to one report JT Sr. QB Kerry Maddox scored 4 TD's and Jr. RB Kendall Hunter also scored on a long run. JT also scored numerous times during the redzone scrimmage. JT will officially open up the Thomas Brooks era next Friday against Class-4A State ranked Texas High at TMF Rose Stadium. The game can be heard on AM 600 KTBB and online on either Smoaky.com or KTBB.com.

Smoaky

Black&Gold06
08-19-2005, 11:21 PM
Garland scrimmaged The Colony. Garland scored at least 5 times to The Colony's 0...but it was difficult to tell exactly the outcome because of the frequent team substitutions. Garland looked very impressive though.

pack0808
08-19-2005, 11:25 PM
It is hard to care about scrimmage reports?? I mean if a team wins 5-2 you do not know if who scored what when?? The winning team could have scored all of its points when they were going up against the opposing teams 2nd and 3rd string defenses!! Oh Kt!! I am the one that brought up Whitney and Bobby not wide!! LOL We did grow up together in Lufkin and we were close as brother's, so it all makes sense now right?? ;)

grayowl60
08-19-2005, 11:34 PM
I hope some other Garland fans will post opinions of the Owl- Colony scrimmage. My view: Owls obviously working on the passing game, and it obviously needs work. I counted 4 qb's throwing the ball. Surprise to see Gehring, runing the offense, the little time that the # 1 offense played, and ran the tried and true, wing t running game, it looked as good as it ever has!
And when the #1 defense was on the field..well, i hate to say it...Awsome?Owls have some gaps to fill, but some good juniors right there. Anybody notice the 4 or 5 HITS in front of the bench? They are still teaching SMASH MOUTH on North Glenbrook!
I was impressed with The Colony's talent and coaching. They will surprise some folks.

GTown02
08-19-2005, 11:51 PM
I havent made it out to the scrimmages the last couple of years, but from what others have said... Garland should have a good year if they can survive preseason.:D Cant wait to watch!

lonny23
08-20-2005, 12:00 AM
Wichita Falls needs to have the UIL on their butts NOW. It clearly looked like Ted Ginn Jr. was lined up in their backfield. That or we just looked really bad. :mad:
CRAP! I have to miss them all year. I MIGHT get to see the first game, but that'll be a bomb against Hirschi. Texas Football has the Coyotes winning the district this year.

grayowl60
08-20-2005, 12:03 AM
I havent made it out to the scrimmages the last couple of years, but from what others have said... Garland should have a good year if they can survive preseason.:D Cant wait to watch!
Yes. Hope they peak in December this year. BTW, I hear the folks in Ennis are talking about the Garland game as much as any these days, and are planning some pay back, And the Garland folks are planning on creating a new place for Ennis to put that flag.

jtk1519
08-20-2005, 12:26 AM
CRAP! I have to miss them all year. I MIGHT get to see the first game, but that'll be a bomb against Hirschi. Texas Football has the Coyotes winning the district this year.

They actually looked very good. WF High has an amzing RB and some very good QBs. The most frustrating thing about WF is that their offense is a little of everything. They would run the triple option one play, then run out of a spread formation the next and then run out of the wishbone after that. They ran the ball VERY well and their guys are hard to tackle... at least for us they were. :mad:

GarlandOwl06
08-20-2005, 01:02 AM
Grayowl how can you say the passing game needs work when we threw 3 or 4 td passes and one for about 60 yards.... Of course they had more than just Tim playin QB because its a scrimmage they had to get greg out there and get some snaps.... i think you may be mistaken about ghering playin qb but correct me if im wrong because if he did i must not have noticed.....but anyway our recievers looked great as well as the offensive line who looks legions better than last year. Nothing needs to even be said about our defense but all i know is #47 is a man

htownfootball
08-20-2005, 01:27 AM
strake jesuit crusaders versus la marque cougars (number 1 in 4A in Texas) at crusader stadium

la marque had 2 scores and a FG and jesuit had 2 scores and a missed FG
la marque's offensive line looked solid and their recievers and running backs were very very very fast. their rush defense was average. their defensive line sacked strake jesuit quarterback tim bandy once and their defensive backs were above average.
strake jesuit's offensive line returns only one senior and has 3 sophomores but looked good. bandy running the option did not look good but grant jefferson who is being scouted by stanford, baylor and iowa at running back looked great. so did miami (FL) and wake forest prospect jonathan moore at DB he also played some RB and looked great there. jesuit's returning utility player junior john stell had a score with due respect to the o-line growing up fast. the other score was from jefferson. stanford recruit stephen tyree looked solid at free safety with 1 interception and just as good at wideout. senior TE david tscheope, back from a late return last season due to injury, had some big catches including a 20+ diving catch on 4th down at the la marque 10. LB scott coffman whos being recruited for d1 schools looked great in his 3rd varsity year.

wide-e-wide
08-20-2005, 01:31 AM
scrimmage games= kiss on the cheek
Damn everybody feels cheated.
guess what?........who cares?
well Longview cares...but they don't count...
My prediction...Longview mops the floor with Lufkin
tomorrow.....
And they will all have pretty new t-shirts.


Nobody cares-
Sincerely,
Teams that mattter........

svhorns
08-20-2005, 03:32 AM
Sv absoluely dominated SA Southwest about at total of 13 Td's to 1. SV's soph running back Trent Rios is the real deal he is so quick and shifty he makes a great combination with Blake Shrock. Sv has never looked this athletic before they have the fastest team ever at smithson valley anyways im just ready for football to start!

mtbray
08-20-2005, 05:18 AM
JOHN TYLER - NAAMAN FOREST SCRIMMAGE



I just got a call from a couple of people at the JT - Naaman Forest scrimmage in Garland. And although details are sketchy it appears as if during the #1 versus #1 real-time scrimmage JT outscored Naaman Forest 5-1. According to one report JT Sr. QB Kerry Maddox scored 4 TD's and Jr. RB Kendall Hunter also scored on a long run. JT also scored numerous times during the redzone scrimmage. JT will officially open up the Thomas Brooks era next Friday against Class-4A State ranked Texas High at TMF Rose Stadium. The game can be heard on AM 600 KTBB and online on either Smoaky.com or KTBB.com.

Smoaky

I was there. It did appear (coming from an NF fan) that JT outscored NF (for the varsity game) but I'm honestly not suite sure of the ratio. The JT quarterback did look very poised I must say and definitely has some moves when he want to use them. The Jr. running back also looks very good...several times he would run into a couple NF defenders and just purely truck them but eventually come down if they held on. Lookin good JT....the only thing is when you'll be playing better teams you're QB had better be more careful when throwing....if NF's secondary had been much better they really could have capitalized on several possible INT's by JT. (Same goes for NF 110% might I add)

adcwalker
08-20-2005, 05:57 AM
I know this is a home town paper story but it is a good report of the Abilene / Cove Scrimmage. I went to the varsity scrimmage. This Cove team is very fast. The fastest I've seen in a long time. Cove does have some things to work on though. I was impressed by Potts the Abilene QB. He has a great arm.

Big Dawgs shine against Abilene

By Monty Campbell

Killeen Daily Herald

COPPERAS COVE — The Copperas Cove Bulldawgs greeted another top-20 5A football program Friday night, the Abilene Eagles, and left no doubt to everyone in attendance, including scouts from area schools, that the offensive line is coming together quite nicely.

All-district running back Donald Buckram took a pitch from Brent Garner and scampered down the left sideline for a 55-yard touchdown run to give Copperas Cove a 7-3 lead with 1:03 left. The two head coaches determined that that was all that they needed to see and ended the spirited scrimmage between the two schools.

Neither side had much luck on their first drives of the scrimmage with Abilene only gaining 6 yards on a Taylor Potts completion while Cove stayed on the ground for eight straight rushes, netting 29 yards.

Abilene put the first points on the board on a 13-play, 52-yard drive that ended with a 26-yard field goal.

Potts, already committed to Texas Tech, completed only two of five passes on the drive but his 26-yard pass to Lyle Leong gave the Eagles a first-and-goal at the 8-yard line.

A run that was stopped for no gain and a Sterling Lewis sack left the Eagles scrambling for some help, and on third-and-goal, the Bulldawgs obliged. Potts threw a fade route into the end zone for Leong and the Bulldawg defender got caught up in Leong's feet, drawing a pass interference penalty.

Given new life, the Eagles were still grounded and, after two incompletions, settled for the field goal with 3:40 left.

The game was a well-played scrimmage with neither side making any crucial mistakes but the reality that must come from this contest was that it was a scrimmage and neither team actually showed anything out of the ordinary to the other.

Cove can take many positive things away from this scrimmage though.

The loss of four starters from the offensive line was a major concern during the offseason for Copperas Cove but after springing Buckram for 78 yards on nine carries, that concern was lessened.

The defense does not appear that it has missed a beat, holding Abilene to minus-1 yard rushing and giving up only 44 yards through the air in the one quarter. Walter Pam, Lewis and the rest of the linebacking unit chased Potts around the field.

Backup quarterback Robert Griffin dazzled everyone in attendance with his breakaway speed on a 70-yard touchdown run earlier in the scrimmage, proving that he is ready for the intensity of varsity football.

The end result was a remarkable way to end the evening for the Bulldawgs but head coach Jack Welch also realized that there were some flaws to the Dawgs' game.

"Our effort was great tonight and overall I was very pleased," said Welch, who also remembered some of the errors that the Bulldawgs committed, too. "The results with the defensive backfield (three penalties) need to get better, we also need to work on our pass blocking before next week's game."

The Bulldawgs preseason is now complete and they will hit the field Friday night at Leo Buckley Stadium for the season opener against the Killeen Kangaroos, beginning at 7:30.



Contact Monty Campbell at cmonty@kdhnews.com

Black&Gold06
08-20-2005, 09:06 AM
Gehring was in at QB for a few snaps, he is actually the fourth string QB I think, except Sophomore Jacquez Caldwell (4.39 40) is hurt. I thought the worst aspect was the receiving corps, but some of those are obviously not the starters. B.J. and Malcolm certainly looked capable. Can't wait til we start playin in some real games!

grayowl60
08-20-2005, 09:24 AM
Grayowl how can you say the passing game needs work when we threw 3 or 4 td passes and one for about 60 yards.... Of course they had more than just Tim playin QB because its a scrimmage they had to get greg out there and get some snaps.... i think you may be mistaken about ghering playin qb but correct me if im wrong because if he did i must not have noticed.....but anyway our recievers looked great as well as the offensive line who looks legions better than last year. Nothing needs to even be said about our defense but all i know is #47 is a man
Oh yes, they had some great pass plays, but if they are going to reach the 40% goal, the passing game is still a project. Ill bet they threw much more in this years scrimmage, than last year. My comment about needing work, comes more from last year, Remember Lee just teeing off with a 7 man line, darring the Owls to pass? I was sure I saw #17 at QB for a while, could be wrong. No comment about the HITS? A couple of them could be heard down on the square!

CCDawgs05
08-20-2005, 09:31 AM
About the Abilene/Cove scrimmage....IMO, Cove took it to em' offensively and defensely....offense had a slow start but when Buckram got to the outside, thats when the fun began....our back up SOPH QB is a speedster and it was fun seeing him break that run...defense if i recall right, did not let Abilene in the endzone once with the 1st string(excluding the goal line reps)...we were chasing Potts out of the pocket and thats not where he wants to be...But Abilene has a pretty good RB...he's tough and he looked good...but i wanst impressed much with Potts BUT I DO KNOW HE WILL HAVE A GREAT SEASON....it was a good way to start of the year for both teams and a very good scrimmage....best luck to Abilene and GO DAWGS!!!!

Black&Gold06
08-20-2005, 10:12 AM
Grayowl you are correct, Gehring (#17) was in on some plays. And wow how bout those hits!

Rerun
08-20-2005, 10:27 AM
I was out last night with some guys, one who happens to play football for Roosevelt.

He said that they did well in their scrimmage against Taft and that Taft seemed really small and kinda slow, but seems to have a lot of heart and determination.


All in all it was a good scrimmage for both teams.

myround0
08-20-2005, 10:56 AM
scrimmage games= kiss on the cheek
Damn everybody feels cheated.
guess what?........who cares?
well Longview cares...but they don't count...
My prediction...Longview mops the floor with Lufkin
tomorrow.....
And they will all have pretty new t-shirts.


Nobody cares-
Sincerely,
Teams that mattter........

I hope the Lobos don't become so concern with beating Lufkin in a scrimmage game, they neglect to work on a passing game...Lufkin is a great program and if your work on your passing game against them and Mr. Hewitt, you can pass on any corner in High School...so throwing interceptions today against Lufkin doesn't hurt as much as not testing their secondary, just to get a win...I want Longview to come out the chute showing they deserve to be nationally ranked, however, this win is small in the larger picture of things Longview has carved out for itself this season...Just play well Lobos, and hopefully no one gets hurt...

Reaganrattler07
08-20-2005, 11:04 AM
You can never take a scrimmage game seriously, all it is is the coachest rying new things against a team different than theirs....can't really judge how a team will be in a scrimmage....

Hdshrinker
08-20-2005, 11:13 AM
I was out last night with some guys, one who happens to play football for Roosevelt.

He said that they did well in their scrimmage against Taft and that Taft seemed really small and kinda slow, but seems to have a lot of heart and determination.


All in all it was a good scrimmage for both teams.


I was at that game.....if you want to call it that. It was called after 20 plays for the first teamers and 20 plays for the second teamers due to lightning and impending rain. It was a defensive struggle. Taft is going to have to take some giants steps at offense if they are going to fill the shoes left by their predecessors. Taft had a fumble and an interception, maybe two, all in just 20 plays. As for Roosevelt doing well....no first downs on offense after 20 plays for the first teamers. If it had ended there 0-0.......

Reaganrattler07
08-20-2005, 11:16 AM
I think all the scrimmages around SA were cancelled cause of the lightning.....man, of all times to have a storm why did it have to be yesterday?!

garlandowl08
08-20-2005, 11:22 AM
The Owl's offense looked pretty good to me. The passing game worked to an extent, (especially in comparison to The Colony's, they had some horrible dropped balls) but I would agree that if we want to be a serious threat in teh air, we're going to need some work. We shall see against Plano East, wont we. I thought i saw the COlony score at least once, but there were a lot of distractions so I may be wrong. A couple bone-crunching hits happened right in front of where i was sitting in the stands, and I think some Colony players wer definately sucking air after our defense got finished with them. It was my first scrimmage (considering last years was in the COlony and i was a fish) so it wasnt what I expected exactly, but i enjoyed it nonetheless.

Reaganrattler07
08-20-2005, 11:45 AM
MacArthur/Seguin

Canceled due to lighting up in Seguin. They'll go at it again Sat morning at 9:00am. I'll give you an update when I get back.

I heard Seguin clearly dominated Mac....now I know your gonna come back with they scored a touchdown or two BUT Seguin forced two fumbles and intercepted the ball twice.

GarlandOwl06
08-20-2005, 11:50 AM
I'm kind of confused to how some of you can say the passing game didnt look very impressive? Did you watch this team last year?? The passing game looked 100% better to me. Last year we couldnt complete a pass and last night when our true first team was in the pass game was verrry impressive. Tim looked great.

garlandowl08
08-20-2005, 12:02 PM
Yeah, you have a point, I guess i was letting the second and 3rd stringers influence my opinion too much. But passing depth may need a bit of work, would you agree?

warlok
08-20-2005, 12:16 PM
In the Hub City, one sunset ago, the West Texas Confederates were blown hither and yon by a Sandstorm of questionable strength. The precipitous battle lends cause for great concern in the land of fossil fuel.

Gridiron Gopher
08-20-2005, 12:21 PM
MacArthur/Seguin

Well, it wasn't what I was hoping for but better then last year. Defensively, Mac was fine. Lots of speed and they held Seguin in check. The only first team score was Mac.
Both offenses looked very ave. at best. Mac was a little bit better but Seguins D line was winning the battle IMO.
Second teams I would give the edge to Seguin and that's where I have concerns. Both of Seguins TD's came against the 2nd team of Mac and the secondary was lost. I was hoping for more depth and just didn't see it.

We did get a treat at the end of scrimmage when both teams lined back up and played a full quarter of football clock and all. #1 against #1 and Mac was the better team. Again the defense was the strength of both teams. Mac was able to move the ball a little but was inconsistant. The quarter ended with a muffed punt by Seguin that Mac returned for a TD but the coaches blew the whitsle and it ended in a 0-0 tie.

Both teams offense needs a lot of work and I'm concerned with Mac's O-line.

dragonsdaddy
08-20-2005, 12:32 PM
In the Hub City, one sunset ago, the West Texas Confederates were blown hither and yon by a Sandstorm of questionable strength. The precipitous battle lends cause for great concern in the land of fossil fuel.
so i take that to jibe with your initial prediction of a blowout half a fortnight from now, sweltering heat or no. don't know anything at all about the sandies, but i'd have to guess they aren't on slc's level. the good news for pbites is that the season really doesn't begin til week 4.

warlok
08-20-2005, 12:42 PM
so i take that to jibe with your initial prediction of a blowout half a fortnight from now, sweltering heat or no. don't know anything at all about the sandies, but i'd have to guess they aren't on slc's level. the good news for pbites is that the season really doesn't begin til week 4.

Fortunately for the Rebels, the real season doesn't start until week 6.

The Amarillo Sandies are a lower tier, one game and out, playoff team. I was told Lee definitely seemed disinterested, and THAT as much as anything bothers me greatly. Lee had no business getting manhandled by them even in a year of LOW expectations.

This is the second year with this system. There aren't any more excuses. It's time to sink or swim because the ship has apparently capsized.

dragonsdaddy
08-20-2005, 12:50 PM
doesn't sound much like a quis team. could be a long season. when's the last time mojo and mlee missed the po's together?

Black&Gold06
08-20-2005, 12:54 PM
I guess you could see we might need some help at passing depth...but I'm sure every team in the area does. Can you not be happy with a decent passing starting QB? Greg is not at Tim's level right now but he is an adequte backup. Tim will play some WR, and so Greg will be throwing a little bit. Did you not see that we had at least 3 passing touchdowns in a game that was not even 3 quarters in length?

warlok
08-20-2005, 01:42 PM
doesn't sound much like a quis team. could be a long season. when's the last time mojo and mlee missed the po's together?

You have to go all the way back to the mid 70s.

jtk1519
08-20-2005, 01:46 PM
You have to go all the way back to the mid 70s.

Or you could just go back to 2002, when Cooper, Abilene and Midland made the playoffs and Lee and Permian sat out.

warlok
08-20-2005, 01:55 PM
Or you could just go back to 2002, when Cooper, Abilene and Midland made the playoffs and Lee and Permian sat out.


OOPS. I forgot about that hideous year. :o

jtk1519
08-20-2005, 02:30 PM
OOPS. I forgot about that hideous year. :o

I knew you did. I hesitated to even remind you.

CoppellCowboy57
08-20-2005, 02:43 PM
Coppell @ Burlison 7:30 Friday Night...

Coppell Looked fresh, Moody played limited time last night...if anybuddy was actolly keeping score, coppell won around 80-14 or around that...saying burlison was 10-2 last year, I think we did pretty good...

odessapermian.com
08-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Varsity tally- Controlled scrimmage- Permian 2 Tds, Coronado 1TD. Live quarters- Coronado 17, Permian 7.

Not too bad IMHO. I'm keeping in mind that Coronado was 9-3, the 2-5A district champ last year, and we still aren't "old MOJO" yet. Now, if you're a Permian fan thinking we were going to come out like the MOJO of old, you're probably discouraged right now. I can say it was no worse than it has been the past 6-7 years, which may or may not encourage anybody. After wondering if they would completely stink up the joint, I can say there were some bright spots, and some things that need work. WR/CB Colby Swearington is a freakin' player! I had no idea how he'd hit on defense, but he brings it, with attitude. Also makes plays when he gets to the ball. I was sure looking forward to seeing our RBs breaking long runs all day, but besides the 60 yard run by Shaquay Gant, they were still gaining positive yardage. I'll take 3-4 yards and a pile of bodies all day.

I do think overall Eric Gonzales may have earned more positive points than Tate Smith did at QB, but there's still plenty of room for improvement for both. After seeing some things earlier this week, I wonder if Tate may be pushing things too hard, putting pressure on himself, to the point of distraction. I don't know. I think better play from the O-line might reveal better things from both QBs this Friday.

Defensively, I thought the pursuit was real good, and hitting was good too. Coverage did slip up at times, although IMO on their first TD pass in the live portion, it was simply a matter of a taller receiver outjumping our defenders for the ball. Sometimes the other team does make a play. The 2nd TD was terrible coverage though. The two interceptions from Amoyaw (S) and Escobedo (ILB) were very encouraging.

JV Black looked very good. Brandon Murry is going to be a heck of a RB. It didn't look like JV White did much at all. I was told by a Coronado player that they split their two JV squads up evenly, rather than one being the "JV" and the other being the "sophomore" teams. I know the Coronado defense that went up against our White offense was very big. Overall it looked like Coronado has some good kids coming up. Do we really want to move to that district next year?

mtbray
08-20-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm kind of confused to how some of you can say the passing game didnt look very impressive? Did you watch this team last year?? The passing game looked 100% better to me. Last year we couldnt complete a pass and last night when our true first team was in the pass game was verrry impressive. Tim looked great.

Good to hear.


Support Tim.....and go eat at Donald Brown Chicken on Avenue D!! It's damn good and damn cheap!

lklgb
08-20-2005, 03:54 PM
how did the 2 qb's compare in the cove / abilene scrimmage?

Hornified64
08-20-2005, 08:36 PM
Tyler Lee 20 Desoto 19

During the controlled portion of the scrimmage both teams
slugged it out for two 20 play segments apiece featuring
the 1st teamers and a 15 play segment of 2nd teamers
apiece.

Desoto lead 12-6 as the two set off for 1 quarter (12:00) of
action.

Tyler Lee took this segment 14-7 with the Red Raider offense
moving both via the ground lead by TB's Jason Williams and
Marquise Seaton as well as off the arm of QB Preston Hill.

Hill was busy finding receivers Jonathan Williams, Marcus Jackson,
Jacob Amie and WB Nathan Tucker.

Hill connected with Tucker on a 43 yard score to cap the scrimmage.

All in all....it was a tough and aggressive scrimmage between two
talented teams.

Keep in mind that Desoto clipped Tyler Lee last season by a 14-7 (2-1)
score when the two squared off in Desoto for last seasons scrimmage.

owlfan 1
08-20-2005, 10:12 PM
I guess you could see we might need some help at passing depth...but I'm sure every team in the area does. Can you not be happy with a decent passing starting QB? Greg is not at Tim's level right now but he is an adequte backup. Tim will play some WR, and so Greg will be throwing a little bit. Did you not see that we had at least 3 passing touchdowns in a game that was not even 3 quarters in length?

Several things I noticed at the scrimmage...

1) Donte Sloan has really hit the weights HARD. He looked like a different player. His one long run in the timed quarter was amazing. He looked like Donte Hart.

2) Tim is throwing much better. He seemed more confident throwing downfield than at any time last year. The WR's dropped some balls that landed right in the bread basket.

3) The defense is strong, quick and ferocious. My ears are still ringing from the sound of some of the hits I heard and saw.

4) I was dissapointed not to see Jeremy Kennedy play. He apparently hurt his knee a couple days ago. I hope he'll be ready soon - he looks huge.

5) The Colony has a lot of size but not much speed. Their running back made some good plays, but their defense didn't have many answers to the Owl offense.

I hate to sound like a homer, but this team looked pretty good to me. Better than anything I saw them do last year.

Lets get this thing started!

WE WILL WIN!!!

Black&Gold06
08-20-2005, 10:51 PM
I agree with you on every issue there. How bout Malcolm Williams #9!!! 6'4" runs a 4.4 with a 35 inch vertical. What a WR prospect!

GarlandOwl06
08-21-2005, 12:21 AM
I agree with you on every issue there. How bout Malcolm Williams #9!!! 6'4" runs a 4.4 with a 35 inch vertical. What a WR prospect!

That kid is INSANE!! I have a feeling we will be getting used to seeing that Crosby/Malcolm connection. Put 7 or 8 guys in the box to stop Sloan...you will get burned on the passing game! Cuz we have one this year!

odessapermian.com
08-21-2005, 04:39 AM
VIDEO CLIPS from the Permian-Coronado scrimmage. Just follow the links- http://eteamz.active.com/odessapermian/news/index.cfm?subsite=1306104&cat=205934

Large files- please be patient. ;)

Shady12
08-21-2005, 08:08 AM
San Angelo Central vs San Angelo Lake View

The rundown:

Both teams ran 48 plays.

Central had over 450 yards and 5 touchdowns(at least 2 more TD's called back I think). Central had a lot of yards called back on penalties as well.

LV about 75 yards and 0 touchdowns.
LV had 1 play longer than 10 yards through it's first 24 plays.

Only 14 of Lake View's 48 plays were for positive yardage.

Lake View crossed midfield once, and posessions started close to midfield to begin with.

Central defense had NINE sacks.

Abilene Wylie is going to have fun next week vs LV.

6'1" Central QB Cole Williams is poised for a big year. 5-8 for 117 yards 2 TDs no INTs. At least 2 of the incompletions were drops which were on the money including 1 which would have been a 50+ yd TD pass. AND the first offensive play(I think) was a 55 or so yard toss that was called back. Also ran for a 58 yard TD on the option and had a 27 yard TD run called back. If not for a couple drops and that called back bomb we're talking about around 250 yards passing on about 9 passes.

One thing Central has had the last 15 years or so regardless of how good the team is overall is some great QB's. Starting with Shea Morenz(UT), Ben Montgomery(Rice), Elliott Bowman(ENMU), BJ Townsend(Howard U), Julio Guerrero(my fave after Morenz) to Sol Southall(ASU)..then a couple down years at the position before last year when Williams took over so nice to see things back to normal.

Chebut Dobbins is the biggest and probably most talented tailback they've had since Bellard arrived. Receivers are 6'1" and 6'2." 6'2" guy is a leaper and the cousin of TCU Horn Frog and former CHS star Walter Bryant. The offense should be much more explosive and should go to the air a little more than the 25% tops they've thrown the last couple seasons. The biggest question mark for the team is at O-line where 1 starter is returning although it seems they have some pretty good size..just a matter of experience.

The D should be killer and looks like they will run a 3-4 to take advantage of their strength which is at linebacker. The linebackers are:

6'2" 215, 6'2" 210, 6'0" 210, 6'1" 200 all running in the 4.5-4.6 range. Only 1 is a senior and Bellard calls it as good as any linebacking corps in the state.

The team has the most size since I played about a decade ago when our O and D lines averaged 250lbs +.

He says the team has the chance to be special.. First game vs Abilene will be a big test obviously..looking forward to that. Still a pretty young team and Abilene will have a game under their belt so will be that much tougher.

battlin'bulldawgs
08-21-2005, 01:11 PM
Varsity tally- Controlled scrimmage- Permian 2 Tds, Coronado 1TD. Live quarters- Coronado 17, Permian 7.

Not too bad IMHO. I'm keeping in mind that Coronado was 9-3, the 2-5A district champ last year, and we still aren't "old MOJO" yet. Now, if you're a Permian fan thinking we were going to come out like the MOJO of old, you're probably discouraged right now. I can say it was no worse than it has been the past 6-7 years, which may or may not encourage anybody. After wondering if they would completely stink up the joint, I can say there were some bright spots, and some things that need work. WR/CB Colby Swearington is a freakin' player! I had no idea how he'd hit on defense, but he brings it, with attitude. Also makes plays when he gets to the ball. I was sure looking forward to seeing our RBs breaking long runs all day, but besides the 60 yard run by Shaquay Gant, they were still gaining positive yardage. I'll take 3-4 yards and a pile of bodies all day.



I do think overall Eric Gonzales may have earned more positive points than Tate Smith did at QB, but there's still plenty of room for improvement for both. After seeing some things earlier this week, I wonder if Tate may be pushing things too hard, putting pressure on himself, to the point of distraction. I don't know. I think better play from the O-line might reveal better things from both QBs this Friday.

Defensively, I thought the pursuit was real good, and hitting was good too. Coverage did slip up at times, although IMO on their first TD pass in the live portion, it was simply a matter of a taller receiver outjumping our defenders for the ball. Sometimes the other team does make a play. The 2nd TD was terrible coverage though. The two interceptions from Amoyaw (S) and Escobedo (ILB) were very encouraging.

JV Black looked very good. Brandon Murry is going to be a heck of a RB. It didn't look like JV White did much at all. I was told by a Coronado player that they split their two JV squads up evenly, rather than one being the "JV" and the other being the "sophomore" teams. I know the Coronado defense that went up against our White offense was very big. Overall it looked like Coronado has some good kids coming up. Do we really want to move to that district next year?


And I'm gonna let you know that you will never be the "old mojo."

odessapermian.com
08-21-2005, 03:45 PM
And I'm gonna let you know that you will never be the "old mojo."

Thanks for that opinion from the wanna be clan. What old anything won't you ever be? Since you've never had an "anything" to begin with?

Better to be a "has been" than a "never was", know what I mean? :D

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CCDawgs05
08-21-2005, 05:16 PM
Thanks for that opinion from the wanna be clan. What old anything won't you ever be? Since you've never had an "anything" to begin with?

Better to be a "has been" than a "never was", know what I mean? :D

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Thats a good one....the Killeen mom says the same thing about her Roos

travisk44
08-21-2005, 09:42 PM
South Garland beat Greenville 14-0 in a 2 quarter game. Our D looked awesome and the o-line looked really good. We played 2 QB's: #8 Lemon Roberts (Jr. 5' 10". 180) and #11 Nick Florence (So. 6' 1". 170.) and Florence the better of the 2. He was fast and passed better then Roberts.